Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue May 22, 2012 8:42 am

Svartalf wrote:
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Svartalf wrote:Which is why you morons ought to buy Areva instead of shopping to Chernobyl class stuff.
Areva are pulling out, is what I heard. Theres only the Japanese, Russians and Chinese left to buy new reactors from


We invented the bloody things and now we have to get foreigners to build 'em. 100 years of feckless morons in charge will do that to a country.
more like 330 years.
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Hermit » Tue May 22, 2012 9:54 am

Svartalf wrote:It's not so much that they are copied, it's that they are copied on the cheap using substandard materials, processes and facilities, resulting in an ungodly amount of faulty pieces that are not quality tested before being sold...
Svartalf wrote:...what you get is crap that won't last a day.
How do you know that those components must be of inferior quality?
Svartalf wrote:...the brand owner did not get his cut...
My heart bleeds for "him". We should chip in to make up the difference between "him" only achieving a 2.95 billion dollar turnover instead of 3.
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by klr » Tue May 22, 2012 9:57 am

Don't be so smug ...
After China, the UK and Canada were found to be the next-largest source countries for fake parts.
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Atheist-Lite » Tue May 22, 2012 9:59 am

I'm sure the Chinese components will last but that extra circuit board chip, that small one, in the 'merican military kit? anyone knows what it does? it could do anything given the complexity of modern circuits? it could be a sleeper chip? :tup:
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by MiM » Tue May 22, 2012 10:14 am

Svartalf wrote:Which is why you morons ought to buy Areva instead of shopping to Chernobyl class stuff.
I don't know if Areva uses "fake Chinese parts", but it sure looks like they are using "fucked Polish workers". And their project is taking almost double the time initially planned. Just saying. :whistle:
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Concre ... 5252583331
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Svartalf » Tue May 22, 2012 10:29 am

Hermit wrote:
Svartalf wrote:It's not so much that they are copied, it's that they are copied on the cheap using substandard materials, processes and facilities, resulting in an ungodly amount of faulty pieces that are not quality tested before being sold...
Svartalf wrote:...what you get is crap that won't last a day.
How do you know that those components must be of inferior quality?
Svartalf wrote:...the brand owner did not get his cut...
My heart bleeds for "him". We should chip in to make up the difference between "him" only achieving a 2.95 billion dollar turnover instead of 3.
Because the premise of this thread is that coped components have been found and that it is feared they might be more failure prone than what was supposed to be procured?

and thanks for cutting my post to put words in my mouth that I did not utter. If off brand versions are as good as the original, then so be it... it's counterfeiters who sell shit that I have beef against.
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Svartalf » Tue May 22, 2012 10:33 am

MiM wrote:
Svartalf wrote:Which is why you morons ought to buy Areva instead of shopping to Chernobyl class stuff.
I don't know if Areva uses "fake Chinese parts", but it sure looks like they are using "fucked Polish workers". And their project is taking almost double the time initially planned. Just saying. :whistle:
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Concre ... 5252583331
Just trying to make sure they don't go east and become PolAtom or something... they still are a major employer here.
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Hermit » Tue May 22, 2012 10:40 am

Svartalf wrote:the premise of this thread is that coped components have been found and that it is feared they might be more failure prone than what was supposed to be procured?
...and I questioned the validity of said premiss.
Svartalf wrote:...put words in my mouth that I did not utter.
The copypaste function does that all the time. :lay:
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Pappa » Tue May 22, 2012 10:51 am

klr wrote:Don't be so smug ...
After China, the UK and Canada were found to be the next-largest source countries for fake parts.
We manufacture stuff? Who knew?

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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Svartalf » Tue May 22, 2012 11:00 am

Nobdy knows because the secret factories are worked 100% by illegal immigrants.
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Atheist-Lite » Tue May 22, 2012 11:19 am

Svartalf wrote:Nobdy knows because the secret factories are worked 100% by illegal immigrants.
Siemens are big here. Don't blame us, blame our sources. :smoke:
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Re: Clever Chinese Selling 'Merica Military Dud Parts

Post by Warren Dew » Tue May 22, 2012 4:02 pm

Svartalf wrote:Because the premise of this thread is that coped components have been found and that it is feared they might be more failure prone than what was supposed to be procured?
More like "fear mongered" than "feared". The politicians - did you notice it was politicians making these complaints? - are just concerned that less money is flowing into their districts because the military is saving on parts.

Their real concern is that the proper royalties aren't being paid for the intellectual property rights. It would be more accurate to call the parts "pirated" rather than "fake".

It should make a good excuse, though. "Oh, sorry, Pakistan, your soldiers died because our airplanes went off course because of 'fake parts'! Never mind that there are recordings of us ordering the strike on the coordinates of your men. It was China, not us!"

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