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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by owtth » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:00 am

There aren't nearly enough quantums cited in this theory for my liking. More quantums damn you :lay:
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Azathoth » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:18 am

It would be nice to be so good at maths that you could tinker something together for any strange little fantasy you care to come up with. Getting all your numbers lined up doesn't help a flawed basic premise though.
if life evolves in all of the many universes in a quantum cosmology, and if life continues to exist in all of these universes, then all of these universes, which include all possible histories among them, will approach the Omega Point. At the instant the Omega Point is reached, life will have gained control of all matter and forces not only in a single universe, but in all universes whose existence is logically possible; life will have spread into all spatial regions in all universes which could logically exist, and will have stored an infinite amount of information, including all bits of knowledge which it is logically possible to know. And this is the end.
A lot of ifs there. If sentient life evolves and remains in all possible universes then his numbers work :what:
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:51 am

Ghatanothoa wrote:It would be nice to be so good at maths that you could tinker something together for any strange little fantasy you care to come up with. Getting all your numbers lined up doesn't help a flawed basic premise though.
if life evolves in all of the many universes in a quantum cosmology, and if life continues to exist in all of these universes, then all of these universes, which include all possible histories among them, will approach the Omega Point. At the instant the Omega Point is reached, life will have gained control of all matter and forces not only in a single universe, but in all universes whose existence is logically possible; life will have spread into all spatial regions in all universes which could logically exist, and will have stored an infinite amount of information, including all bits of knowledge which it is logically possible to know. And this is the end.
A lot of ifs there. If sentient life evolves and remains in all possible universes then his numbers work :what:
It is not possible to know 'all bits of knowledge which it is logically possible to know'.

1. Assume a 'brain' exists with the capacity to contain every fact about every universe. Let us call the total facts U.
2. That brain is a part of those universes.
3. U therefore includes the total contents of the brain.
4. But 1 states that the brain contains U. This is a contradiction, since no set can both contain and be contained by another, distinct set.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by mistermack » Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:00 pm

James Redford wrote:
Actually, you have that in reverse. Cranks are people who violate the laws of physics with their theories, such as introducing new, experimentally-unconfirmed physics which violate the laws of physics. String theory falls under this category, since it has no experimental support whatsoever and it violates the known laws of physics.
That makes relativity and quantum stuff cranky too.
It all violates known laws, till it's accepted.
I said he's thought of as a bit cranky. That doesn't make him a crank, but it makes it harder to convince people to have a serious look at what you're doing.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by James Redford » Mon May 14, 2012 11:21 pm

For more on physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof of God's existence according to the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), see my following article:

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Apr. 9, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysicsOf ... Everything , http://scribd.com/doc/79273334 , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com/Redford ... of-God.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66pCpB7Zs
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Theophysics: God Is the Ultimate Physicist (regarding Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything [TOE]), http://theophysics.freevar.com , http://theophysics.host56.com

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon May 14, 2012 11:28 pm

Thank god, closure at last!
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by klr » Mon May 14, 2012 11:35 pm

I've never heard of the intrepid Frank J. Tipler before, and my immediate reaction was to find a suitable face-palm. So far no luck. For a claim such as this, nothing less than an truly industrial-strength 5-year plan-like face-palm will suffice.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by hackenslash » Tue May 15, 2012 7:02 am

klr wrote:I've never heard of the intrepid Frank J. Tipler before, and my immediate reaction was to find a suitable face-palm. So far no luck. For a claim such as this, nothing less than an truly industrial-strength 5-year plan-like face-palm will suffice.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Tue May 15, 2012 7:31 am

I am really glad ole Jimmy here freshened up his thread. I completely missed it the first time around, but it's proven to be an entertaining read.

I especially enjoyed the part about the trailer-park crack-whore and her apparently overly-taxed ladybits. Good stuff.
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by FBM » Tue May 15, 2012 7:38 am

James Redford wrote:For more on physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof of God's existence according to the known laws of physics (i.e., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), see my following article:

James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Apr. 9, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/details/ThePhysicsOf ... Everything , http://scribd.com/doc/79273334 , http://theophysics.ifastnet.com/Redford ... of-God.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66pCpB7Zs
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Azathoth » Tue May 15, 2012 8:05 am

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Why won't you people just leave Tipler alone. All he wants is a Templeton prize :cry:
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Animavore » Tue May 15, 2012 8:52 am

This thread proves resurrection is real :prof:
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Robert_S » Tue May 15, 2012 1:15 pm

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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue May 15, 2012 1:23 pm

The Social Science Research Network (SSRN), founded by two Professors of.....Business Administration. If anyone would know about Quantum Resurrections and the like, it'd be them
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Re: Resurrection Real, According to Some Scientists

Post by Svartalf » Tue May 15, 2012 1:26 pm

Well, if they are profs of Business Administrations, they have massive grounding in Economics, accountancy, and similar stuff which does make them flimflam experts supreme.
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