Drones to Circle Washington, DC

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Drones to Circle Washington, DC

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:20 pm

Drones are coming to US soil ... http://wtop.com/120/2846813/Live-Blog-A ... rlie-Deane

I suppose it's inevitable. They are a useful tool for valid reasons. They will, of course, also involve overreaching, but with the surveillance technology and the ability to even include devices that can scan for nuclear and other materials from the sky, we pretty much would be stupid not to have them up there.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:24 pm

Frog boiled in water. Welcome to a surveilance state. :smoke:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:08 pm

I always feel like somebody's watching me and I got no privacy.....
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:I always feel like somebody's watching me and I got no privacy.....
They wouldn't be necessary if the US had invested in on the ground surveilance cameras like the UK. :smoke:

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Post by MiM » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:41 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Drones are coming to US soil ... http://wtop.com/120/2846813/Live-Blog-A ... rlie-Deane

I suppose it's inevitable. They are a useful tool for valid reasons. They will, of course, also involve overreaching, but with the surveillance technology and the ability to even include devices that can scan for nuclear and other materials from the sky, we pretty much would be stupid not to have them up there.
Scanning for nuclear materials from a drone. :hilarious:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:01 pm

MiM wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Drones are coming to US soil ... http://wtop.com/120/2846813/Live-Blog-A ... rlie-Deane

I suppose it's inevitable. They are a useful tool for valid reasons. They will, of course, also involve overreaching, but with the surveillance technology and the ability to even include devices that can scan for nuclear and other materials from the sky, we pretty much would be stupid not to have them up there.
Scanning for nuclear materials from a drone. :hilarious:
It's in development.

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http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com ... -detectors

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Post by MiM » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:21 pm

So which of those articles talked about anything even closely related to detecting an amount of NM likely to ever exist within a major US city (even a nuclear bomb) in a rapid scan from several hundred meters?
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:33 pm

MiM wrote:So which of those articles talked about anything even closely related to detecting an amount of NM likely to ever exist within a major US city (even a nuclear bomb) in a rapid scan from several hundred meters?
They all do to some extent, except the first one which talks about underwater drones. The technology to detect nuclear materials at a distance is under serious development, and certainly will be put in drones. Like I said, in development.

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Post by Ian » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:35 pm

I've never understood the fascination many people seem to have with drones. They're not autonomous (at least not yet, and eventually they'll still be guided by programming), they're just piloted remotely. Is there some big ethical difference between a remotely-piloted aircraft and one where the pilot is onboard? Aircraft have been used for surveillance for over a hundred years (and hot air balloons long before that). Discussions about drones in any context seem really trivial to me, like a discussion in the 1950s about how helicopters or jets are increasingly used in place of propeller aircraft. So what?

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Post by maiforpeace » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:38 pm

Crumple wrote:Frog boiled in water. Welcome to a surveilance state. :smoke:
I think you have more surveillance in the UK than we do here in the US Crumple.
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:41 pm

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That's been happening for decades; they're called "elected officials."
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:44 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
Crumple wrote:Frog boiled in water. Welcome to a surveilance state. :smoke:
I think you have more surveillance in the UK than we do here in the US Crumple.
You get used to the cameras. :smoke:
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Re: Drones to Circle Washington, DC

Post by Ian » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:45 pm

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Drones to Circle Washington, DC
That's been happening for decades; they're called "elected officials."
You're confusing drones with zombies. Big difference.

Unfortunately, we're not allowed to kill zombies except in the movies. :sigh:

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Post by MiM » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:50 pm

Ian wrote:I've never understood the fascination many people seem to have with drones. They're not autonomous (at least not yet, and eventually they'll still be guided by programming), they're just piloted remotely. Is there some big ethical difference between a remotely-piloted aircraft and one where the pilot is onboard? Aircraft have been used for surveillance for over a hundred years (and hot air balloons long before that). Discussions about drones in any context seem really trivial to me, like a discussion in the 1950s about how helicopters or jets are increasingly used in place of propeller aircraft. So what?
Drones are certainly useful, for scanning areas where you hesitate to send pilots, like above the Chernobyl or Fukushima reactors at the time of the accident.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:53 pm

Ian wrote:I've never understood the fascination many people seem to have with drones. They're not autonomous (at least not yet, and eventually they'll still be guided by programming), they're just piloted remotely. Is there some big ethical difference between a remotely-piloted aircraft and one where the pilot is onboard? Aircraft have been used for surveillance for over a hundred years (and hot air balloons long before that). Discussions about drones in any context seem really trivial to me, like a discussion in the 1950s about how helicopters or jets are increasingly used in place of propeller aircraft. So what?
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