Photo ID required!

[Coito ergo sum]

Justice Department opposes photo ID requirement for voting, because Justice Department thinks it is too difficult for Mexicans to acquire them --- http://news.yahoo.com/justice-dept-oppo ... 38429.html

Justice Department perfectly o.k. with depriving Mexicans of effective cold and allergy remedies: http://www.drugstore.com/claritin-d-24- ... s/qxp78906 and http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... n26992049/ Huh....photo ID requirements are discriminatory. Therefore, it must be o.k. to discriminate when it comes to access to healthcare...

[Svartalf]

Please remind me... the only kind of widely used Picture ID you folks have is driving licences. Do you systematically get a fresh one when you move to a different state?
and how difficult is it for a citizen who can drive to get a licence in a new state of residence?

Also remind me what kind of hoops you have to go through to get meds like rohypnol or opioids?

[Coito ergo sum]

Please remind me... the only kind of widely used Picture ID you folks have is driving licences. Do you systematically get a fresh one when you move to a different state?

If you move to a new state then to have a drivers license, you have to get a new one in that new state. All states also offer non-driving related photo identification. The reason the drivers license is widely used is because most people drive. People who don't drive can get a state or county ID.

and how difficult is it for a citizen who can drive to get a licence in a new state of residence?

Simple. I have experience in 3 states. You trot on down to the division of motor vehicle department, fill out a form, take an eye exam, and they issue it to you. And, if you can't be issued a drivers license or if you don't want one, you can have a state ID that is not for driving.

Also remind me what kind of hoops you have to go through to get meds like rohypnol or opioids?

I don't know. But apparently to get Claritan allergy medication, you have to present a photo ID under federal law.

[Svartalf]

Actually, only Claritin D, the one with ephedrin in it. I bet that standard claritin is a normal prescription med, or maybe OTC.

[Coito ergo sum]

Actually, only Claritin D, the one with ephedrin in it. I bet that standard claritin is a normal prescription med, or maybe OTC.

Yes, but that is the point. Apparently, it's o.k. to discriminate against Mexicans relative to access to medicines, including but not limited to Claritin D. There has been no suggestion from the Department of Justice that it is unfair that Mexicans be disproportionately deprived of medications.

[Feck]

Actually, only Claritin D, the one with ephedrin in it. I bet that standard claritin is a normal prescription med, or maybe OTC.

that's just cos of Meth

[Coito ergo sum]

Actually, only Claritin D, the one with ephedrin in it. I bet that standard claritin is a normal prescription med, or maybe OTC.

that's just cos of Meth

So, they're saying that Mexicans are more likely to be making Meth out of Claritin? Must be...since their rule disproportionately excludes Mexicans from access to the medication...disparate impact.

[Svartalf]

What I don't get is why Hispanic American citizens should be at such a disadvantage compared to other Americans when it comes to getting picture ID.
Let's remember, the OP is first about a voting law, and non citizens don't vote anyway.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

What I don't get is why Hispanic American citizens should be at such a disadvantage compared to other Americans when it comes to getting picture ID.

Especially when (judging by our tame hispanic) they are so photogenic.

[maiforpeace]

This is clearly an issue of 'illegal' immigrant Mexicans...otherwise they wouldn't have a problem getting an ID.

Regarding driving - to drive legally anywhere in the US you must have a driver's license from your legal state of residence. I could live in Florida for years and not need a Florida license to drive there, if my state of legal residence was California and that's where my license was from.

[Feck]

Actually, only Claritin D, the one with ephedrin in it. I bet that standard claritin is a normal prescription med, or maybe OTC.

that's just cos of Meth

So, they're saying that Mexicans are more likely to be making Meth out of Claritin? Must be...since their rule disproportionately excludes Mexicans from access to the medication...disparate impact.

Maybe it's because Mexicans have bigger noses . If a product is widely used to make a dangerous drug then asking for ID before a purchase doesn't seem to be unreasonable .

[Tyrannical]

Aside from booze and smokes, you can't get welfare with out ID.
So ID laws must discriminate against Mitt Romney's south of the border relatives and not much else.

[Coito ergo sum]

What I don't get is why Hispanic American citizens should be at such a disadvantage compared to other Americans when it comes to getting picture ID.
Let's remember, the OP is first about a voting law, and non citizens don't vote anyway.

I think they are suggesting that Mexican citizens in Texas are at a disadvantage relative to drivers licenses. I have seen no evidence that they are. Basically, they want to make it easy for non-eligible voters to vote by making it difficult to verify who is on the voter rolls.

It's the Department of Justice who is alleging the Texas law is discriminatory against Mexicans. At the same time, the federal government has a law requiring picture ID to be produced to get certain medicines. Seems incongruous.

[Tyrannical]

I would think the vast,vast majority of legal Hispanics in the US would have picture ID so that they don't accidentally get deported. Police also tend not to release people that they arrest until the can positively identify them.

But it's just a backdoor attempt to steal the election by flooding the voter roles with Democrat leaning illegals.

[Coito ergo sum]

This is clearly an issue of 'illegal' immigrant Mexicans...otherwise they wouldn't have a problem getting an ID.

Considering an illegal immigrant is not legally permitted to vote, it seems as if that would make the ID requirement all the more reasonable. It seems hardly an injustice to prevent people who are not legally entitled to vote from voting. Unless, well, unless of course one's goal is to allow them to vote - then opposing ID requirements would be an obvious position to take...

Regarding driving - to drive legally anywhere in the US you must have a driver's license from your legal state of residence. I could live in Florida for years and not need a Florida license to drive there, if my state of legal residence was California and that's where my license was from.

If you live in Florida, Florida law requires that you change your drivers license to Florida, if you drive. You can't legally maintain a legal residence in a state in which you do not actually reside. It can be done as a practical matter, by using an address you don't live at and saying that you do. But, the technical, legal requirement is that you get a drivers license in the state in which you actually reside.