Should there be limits on the freedom of the press?

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Re: Should there be limits on the freedom of the press?

Post by Seth » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:42 am

Crumple wrote:The press are not free. They are hostage to their owners, their advertisers and their readers expectations. :smoke:
They are free from government censorship and compulsion, which is what is meant by "freedom of the press." It only applies to government.

If you don't like the way the press is dealing with the issues because of it's owners, advertisers or readers, then go start your own newspaper...something no one can prevent you from doing...and something which, with the Internet, is very easy to do. Just look at the Drudge Report.

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Re: Should there be limits on the freedom of the press?

Post by Feck » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:02 am

Yes but for the life of me I don't see how you can legislate for it ....... obviously some stories are not actually anything to do with freedom of the press they are mere tabloid titillation , but then celebs have less right to privacy (of the superficial stuff at least )than a 'normal' person A government minister who happens to be Gay should never be outed by the Press ...But what if he consistently votes against gay rights etc ...... I guess you just have to hope editors have some integrity and some idea that with freedom come obligations, Some hope when Murdock owns a newspaper or two .
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Re: Should there be limits on the freedom of the press?

Post by tattuchu » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:56 pm

Yes. Call paparazzi what they are: stalkers. And prosecute.
I just read an article about this recently and an actress was quoted as saying she was constantly followed, constantly harassed. She would have ten men chasing her down a dark alley at midnight. The only reason it was legal? They had cameras.
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Re: Should there be limits on the freedom of the press?

Post by Hermit » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:19 pm

Yes, there should be limits on the freedom of the press. They are defined by the laws of the land.
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Post by MrJonno » Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:43 pm

Any human behaviour should and is limited , moral absolutism is the source of all evil
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:07 pm

Feck wrote:Yes but for the life of me I don't see how you can legislate for it ....... obviously some stories are not actually anything to do with freedom of the press they are mere tabloid titillation , but then celebs have less right to privacy (of the superficial stuff at least )than a 'normal' person A government minister who happens to be Gay should never be outed by the Press ...But what if he consistently votes against gay rights etc ...... I guess you just have to hope editors have some integrity and some idea that with freedom come obligations, Some hope when Murdock owns a newspaper or two .
Well, lets see...people have a right to know if the candidate will vote FOR gays as well as against, and I thought being gay was not something to be ashamed of, so why would a candidate conceal that fact, or wish to, unless it has some effect on how he will represent his constituents.

Moreover, since he is a representative, the people who are going to give him power and authority have every right to look at ANY aspect of his life they choose, and judge whether or not he will represent THEIR interests properly while in office. And to be quite frank, if they don't think a gay person can do so, they have every right to inquire of his sexual orientation, just as they have a right to inquire of the sexual orientation and practices of any candidate, prior to voting for him/her.

If his constituency is comprised of deeply religious people with strict sexual mores, and he's a libertine sadomasochist, then it's doubtful that he can properly represent them, just as a heavily gay constituency in San Francisco would not want to be represented by James Dobson or Pat Robertson.

Remember, any candidate or elected official is there by choice, and if they don't like the scrutiny and prefer privacy, they need not run for office. But once they do, their life becomes an open book, and justifiably so.
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:12 pm

tattuchu wrote:Yes. Call paparazzi what they are: stalkers. And prosecute.
I just read an article about this recently and an actress was quoted as saying she was constantly followed, constantly harassed. She would have ten men chasing her down a dark alley at midnight. The only reason it was legal? They had cameras.
She chose to be a public figure didn't she? But if she felt threatened, a face-full of OC spray might be useful. Of course, that would lead to very bad press, impinging on her fame and fortune.

Paparazzi are the quid-pro-quo of stardom I'm afraid. They are a pain in the ass, but they are also an essential component of the very fame she sought.
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Re: Should there be limits on the freedom of the press?

Post by Santa_Claus » Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:56 pm

Rum wrote:The most insensitive of these concerned the hacking of a murdered young woman's phone which led, temporarily to her parents believing she was still alive.
I don't actually beleive that - as no mention has been made of her reporting this fact to the Police (where it would be recorded - somewhere) at the time. If I had a missing kid would mention anything that might help - like evidence that she was alive (or the last person to see her was using her phone or someone had found the phone somewhere).

Me is in the camp for absolute Freedom of the Press. Just that when (not if!) they go OTT, a Regulator can (and will) nail both the Paper to a cross financially and the individuals concerned (including the chain of command).
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