
Tea Party vs Occupy Wall Street
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Read this in Friday's paper. Kind of sums up my views on what the occupy movement will achieve if they don't change something.
"the squatters of London and New York can grab a headline and illustrate a story, but then what? With no leaders, no policies, no programme beyond opposition to status quo, they must just sink into the urban background"
Read this in Friday's paper. Kind of sums up my views on what the occupy movement will achieve if they don't change something.
"the squatters of London and New York can grab a headline and illustrate a story, but then what? With no leaders, no policies, no programme beyond opposition to status quo, they must just sink into the urban background"
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Bah! I was hoping this would be a youtube video of illiterate house slave thugs knocking the fuck out of peaceful liberal self righteous student types with badly spelt signs.
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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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I'm actually surprised that someone from the anti-defamation league hasn't claimed that when these protesters say "bankers" they mean "jews". Still I do expect an escalation of absurdity soon enough.
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I got 8 out of 9 on that, so if they've purposely taken the quotes that they consider to be hardest to tell apart, then I imagine with a more random selection of quotes, or if actually talking to someone rather than being presented with out of context quotes to identify, it would be incredibly easy to tell the two apart.
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I'd say the Occupy Wall St. movement has already succeeded. They've created and maintained a national and worldwide discussion on economic inequality, a discussion that wasn't really happening two months ago. They're there first and foremost to call attention to economic injustice; if any policy changes actually result from all the noise, they will come down the road.
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I agree. They'll need to keep doing it for the next year or so to keep succeeding, I'd say.Ian wrote:I'd say the Occupy Wall St. movement has already succeeded.
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This. I am sympathetic to the movement but I do have to say though, some of those accusations are blind. I am anything but republican in most of my beliefs on poltiics but I don't agree that not having leaders is a positive. Additionally I do not equate the tea party with fascism. That would be idiotic as equating obama with socialism. -.-Ian wrote:I'd say the Occupy Wall St. movement has already succeeded. They've created and maintained a national and worldwide discussion on economic inequality, a discussion that wasn't really happening two months ago. They're there first and foremost to call attention to economic injustice; if any policy changes actually result from all the noise, they will come down the road.
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The teagaggers have a very strong racist component. Also, they are corporatist, which springs from their Kochsuching roots, where all their funding comes from.
I wouldn't hesitate to label corporatist racists as "fascistic."
If you're not aware of their racism or corporatism, I can provide pretty much irrefutable evidence of both.
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I wouldn't hesitate to label corporatist racists as "fascistic."
If you're not aware of their racism or corporatism, I can provide pretty much irrefutable evidence of both.
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The teabaggers are very extreme right wing - ie fascists. Obama is moderate at best. Wish he was Socialist.
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Fascists aren't extreme right. They're centrists, economically. They pursued socialist-style programs, but with corporations rather than raw government like, say, the Soviet Union. The problem is that they're authoritarian racists.
And, of course, so are the teagaggers.
And, of course, so are the teagaggers.
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Considering I got an email from Freedomworks encouraging me to help "occupy Wall Street" three days before it started, I think the idea that the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movements are distinct is somewhat suspect.
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I saw a black helicopter yesterday.
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Extremes in politics always tend towards making fantastical, absolutist statements that bare little resemblance to anything that can be realistically achieved, and will suffer any means, as long as the end is achieved...
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