Cache of guns stolen from LAPD

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They'd still have a 3 round bust setting. Submachineguns just are not interesting if they don't have burst or full auto, since that would just make them oversized, cumbersome and heavy pistols.

MMM I'd like to see the group sizes of an MP5 vs a 9mm pistol to be sure of that ?

Get a rigid mount for the test, not a human shooter.

[Feck]

They'd still have a 3 round bust setting. Submachineguns just are not interesting if they don't have burst or full auto, since that would just make them oversized, cumbersome and heavy pistols.

MMM I'd like to see the group sizes of an MP5 vs a 9mm pistol to be sure of that ?

Get a rigid mount for the test, not a human shooter.

why ? they are used by a human , but (and i'm not sure ) that if you have spent 45mins crouched behind a wall in a typical British hostage situation that the one or two shots a policeman will get to fire will be a lot more accurate from an MP5 than a pistol ?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They'd still have a 3 round bust setting. Submachineguns just are not interesting if they don't have burst or full auto, since that would just make them oversized, cumbersome and heavy pistols.

MMM I'd like to see the group sizes of an MP5 vs a 9mm pistol to be sure of that ?

Get a rigid mount for the test, not a human shooter.

why ? they are used by a human , but (and i'm not sure ) that if you have spent 45mins crouched behind a wall in a typical British hostage situation that the one or two shots a policeman will get to fire will be a lot more accurate from an MP5 than a pistol ?

Because you first determine the group spread without the human. Then with the human. You do the human part several times to get an average grouping. You compare that with the fixed mount grouping.

[Svartalf]

They'd still have a 3 round bust setting. Submachineguns just are not interesting if they don't have burst or full auto, since that would just make them oversized, cumbersome and heavy pistols.

MMM I'd like to see the group sizes of an MP5 vs a 9mm pistol to be sure of that ?

dunno... if I wanted something that fires pistol ammo, I'd use a pistol, if I want the range and precision of a long arm, I'd use a shotgun or compact assault rifle.
stuck in semi auto mod, a sub is a cote male taile less portable than a pistol, but with a range and precision that are not really interesting in the light of modern close assault weaponry whose added bulk isn't so great as to make the tradeoff worth it.

It might have been so in the 80s, when the previous generation of assault rifles and related weapon were really big, but modern carbines are barely larger, and shoot better.

Not to speak ill of the MP5, but it was designed for a certain use, if you change usage parameters, it's better to use a different tool altogether.

[Feck]

No, the MP5 is famous and well used because it's accurate (and reliable ) , I'm sure 'Zilla will correct me if I'm wrong . meh i'm biased I'm a terrible shot with a pistol .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

No, the MP5 is famous and well used because it's accurate (and reliable ) , I'm sure 'Zilla will correct me if I'm wrong . meh i'm biased I'm a terrible shot with a pistol .

Pistols are best used when you have a gun fight in a small room. A closet, maybe.

[tattuchu]

I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a piece.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a piece.

Go basic, 9MM auto. Don't bother with sights, if you have to draw a bead on somebody you're either too far away to get hurt or you're going to miss anyway. Find a gun that's comfortable. Otherwise you'll hate it before you really learn to use it.

[Feck]

Shotgun ...hack saw

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Shotgun ...hack saw

Only if you want to enter into a zone where things can get really frisky really quickly.

[Feck]

Shotgun ...hack saw

Only if you want to enter into a zone where things can get really frisky really quickly.

or you want to make a Hit really messy and memorable ?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Shotgun ...hack saw

Only if you want to enter into a zone where things can get really frisky really quickly.

or you want to make a Hit really messy and memorable ?

In that case a nail bomb would be more impressive.

[Coito ergo sum]

Well, CA does have a Republican governor, so guns must be tightly controlled because only the militia is to be armed.

Governor Moonbeam switched parties and is a Republican now?

[Coito ergo sum]

That's why NO ONE should have guns.

Can't we all just get along?

[Feck]

Shotgun ...hack saw

Only if you want to enter into a zone where things can get really frisky really quickly.

or you want to make a Hit really messy and memorable ?

In that case a nail bomb would be more impressive.

nah it lacks the up close and personal touch .