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Re: World population

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:33 pm

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote: A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
And how you propose to do that :ask: Voluntary birth control has not worked very well so far.
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Re: World population

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:38 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote: A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
And how you propose to do that :ask: Voluntary birth control has not worked very well so far.
That doesn't mean we should give up trying to educate people about it, does it? The efforts to control world population will have to get stronger or Darwin and Malthus will step in and do it for us.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:39 pm

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:In the civilized Western countries, under population is our problem. Since multiculturalism has been mostly a failure, importing foreigners from more populace nations to offset this is losing popularity. So while much of the rest of the world is over populated, we are left in a situation where we have to encourage women to have more children.
A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
Tyrannical has been channeling Thomas Malthus for years. An appeal to sanity won't stop that now.
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Re: World population

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:41 pm

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Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:In the civilized Western countries, under population is our problem. Since multiculturalism has been mostly a failure, importing foreigners from more populace nations to offset this is losing popularity. So while much of the rest of the world is over populated, we are left in a situation where we have to encourage women to have more children.
A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
Tyrannical has been channeling Thomas Malthus for years. An appeal to sanity won't stop that now.
It's probably going to be the winner in any case. Short, brutal decimation of the population followed by the survivors picking up the pieces. The Earth Abides or, The Stand, for example.
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:49 pm

Seraph wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:In the civilized Western countries, under population is our problem. Since multiculturalism has been mostly a failure, importing foreigners from more populace nations to offset this is losing popularity. So while much of the rest of the world is over populated, we are left in a situation where we have to encourage women to have more children.
A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
Tyrannical has been channeling Thomas Malthus for years. An appeal to sanity won't stop that now.
Channeling Francis Galton used to get me into trouble at Ratskep. :ask:
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Re: World population

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:58 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Seraph wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:In the civilized Western countries, under population is our problem. Since multiculturalism has been mostly a failure, importing foreigners from more populace nations to offset this is losing popularity. So while much of the rest of the world is over populated, we are left in a situation where we have to encourage women to have more children.
A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
Tyrannical has been channeling Thomas Malthus for years. An appeal to sanity won't stop that now.
Channeling Francis Galton used to get me into trouble at Ratskep. :ask:
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Re: World population

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:51 pm

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote: A saner solution would be to have the over-populating societies have fewer children, of course.
And how you propose to do that :ask: Voluntary birth control has not worked very well so far.
That doesn't mean we should give up trying to educate people about it, does it? The efforts to control world population will have to get stronger or Darwin and Malthus will step in and do it for us.
Well, it is a bit of a race against time. Ethiopia for example has over twice the population now then when the great televised famine of the 80's took place.
There isn't a hard population limit, over population doesn't become truly apparent until their are a few bad crop years.

http://www.globalissues.org/news/2011/06/20/10161
A new study titled 'Africa's Demographic Multiplication', commissioned by the Washington-based Globalist Research Center, points out that Africa's population has more than tripled during the second half of the 20th century, growing from 230 million to 811 million.

Nigeria, Africa's most populous country at 158 million, is expected to grow to 730 million by century's end, making it larger than Europe's projected population of 675 million.
ut 10 other countries in the African continent are expected to join that club before the close of the century: the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Egypt, Ethiopia, Kenya, Malawi, Niger, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia.

Together, he says, the population of these 11 African nations is expected to reach 2.4 billion by 2100, representing about a quarter of the world's population at that time
There is no way Africa can feed 2.4 billion people by 2100, and the shortfalls will be too much for imports to cover if there are a few bad crop years.
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Re: World population

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:52 pm

They won't feed that many by 2100. Therein lies the problem. Maybe we'll see big walls along the Suez by then.
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Re: World population

Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:08 pm

A small container will solve the issue of over-population. You just need someone sane enough to open it. :smoke:
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Re: World population

Post by Exi5tentialist » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:01 pm

Well this thread has taken a shift to the right since the last time I looked at it. From "World Population" we have now gong to "over-population" with nobody batting an eyelid. And it's a white/black thing, according to Tyrannical. We whites are underpopulated, and there are too many blacks. :bored:

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Re: World population

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:03 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:Well this thread has taken a shift to the right since the last time I looked at it. From "World Population" we have now gong to "over-population" with nobody batting an eyelid. And it's a white/black thing, according to Tyrannical. We whites are underpopulated, and there are too many blacks. :bored:
I take it you've never read any of Tyrannical's other posts?
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Re: World population

Post by charlou » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:03 pm

Seems you're taking the black and white stance there, Exi5 ... It's a location/culture thing, actually.
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Re: World population

Post by Exi5tentialist » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:13 pm

charlou wrote:Seems you're taking the black and white stance there, Exi5 ... It's a location/culture thing, actually.
You mean a west/non-west thing? Yes, that is a good disguise for what I am talking about.

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Re: World population

Post by Exi5tentialist » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:15 pm

Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Well this thread has taken a shift to the right since the last time I looked at it. From "World Population" we have now gong to "over-population" with nobody batting an eyelid. And it's a white/black thing, according to Tyrannical. We whites are underpopulated, and there are too many blacks. :bored:
I take it you've never read any of Tyrannical's other posts?
Wrong. I've read rather too many of Tyrannical's other posts actually, and rather too many of yours as well.

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Re: World population

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:18 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
Zombie Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Well this thread has taken a shift to the right since the last time I looked at it. From "World Population" we have now gong to "over-population" with nobody batting an eyelid. And it's a white/black thing, according to Tyrannical. We whites are underpopulated, and there are too many blacks. :bored:
I take it you've never read any of Tyrannical's other posts?
Wrong. I've read rather too many of Tyrannical's other posts actually, and rather too many of yours as well.
That's remarkable. From you posts I got the impression that you didn't know how to read. Is this a new thing?
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