I've thought about this before and had the idea of a subforum set up for this kind of thing ... but staff would know who all the members are ... which obviously means staff couldn't participate other than to moderate. It would certainly be interesting, just as an experiment.lordpasternack wrote:(I actually think that anonymous posting atmospheres are actually good for the latter point there - in modding and in simple debate - in that it's impossible to judge any post/transgression by anything other than its own value: there's no other bias that can exist when practically every post is authored by some indistinct and unknown character.)
Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
The tangent involving where personal disagreement etc should be aired and how it should be dealt with has been split to a new thread (in this public forum), here: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2705
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
lordp, klr has formally requested that I ask you to refrain from publicly criticising him, and to direct such criticism to him via private message for discussion in future.lordpasternack wrote:One thing that I really like about this forum is how much the staff know about how to deal with these situations, that they've learned from seasoned experience being the "protesters" at the parent forums that this site budded from, as well as being on the receiving end of some misjudged moderation in quite an array of different situations.Charlou wrote:Two things ...
* I think we can discuss RDF guidelines and moderation without getting personal and/or insulting about members or staff of RDF, past or present. [/my opinion]
* Any discussion which becomes personal may be split and moved to our In Depth forum if it continues. [/staff comment]
I will try to be impersonal - though there are situations where I think specifics are necessary for context. I still try to stray from personal attacks and slurs, though.
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Okay doke. I should be able to satisfy that . Although it does have an odd feel of making one immune from public criticism, doesn't it?Charlou wrote: lordp, klr has formally requested that I ask you to refrain from publicly criticising him, and to direct such criticism to him via private message for discussion in future.
Can I have any and all criticism of me sent via PM, where I can even satisfyingly put opinions expressed straight through a virtual shredder never to be heard of again?

That's not a serious request. Harangue me all you want.

Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Include me among those who'll accept public criticism (not personal abuse or harrassment - though I'm reasonably thick-skinned I'm not a rhino - but criticism) and try to glean and consider any constructive aspect of it.lordpasternack wrote:Okay doke. I should be able to satisfy that . Although it does have an odd feel of making one immune from public criticism, doesn't it?Charlou wrote: lordp, klr has formally requested that I ask you to refrain from publicly criticising him, and to direct such criticism to him via private message for discussion in future.
Can I have any and all criticism of me sent via PM, where I can even satisfyingly put opinions expressed straight through a virtual shredder never to be heard of again?![]()
That's not a serious request. Harangue me all you want.
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
In my experience, I can take the abuse-laden posts quite well. This might have something to do with the fact that, hitherto, they've been quite vacuous underneath the invective. It pisses me off at the time, but it doesn't tend to hurt me much.
Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
I just want to make it clear that I am only passing on klr's request as he felt unable to do so himself. This is not an endorsement of klr's request, as the staff do not feel lordp has breached any forum guidelines and she is not required to self censor in this instance. Any decision to do so is hers alone.Charlou wrote:lordp, klr has formally requested that I ask you to refrain from publicly criticising him, and to direct such criticism to him via private message for discussion in future.lordpasternack wrote:One thing that I really like about this forum is how much the staff know about how to deal with these situations, that they've learned from seasoned experience being the "protesters" at the parent forums that this site budded from, as well as being on the receiving end of some misjudged moderation in quite an array of different situations.Charlou wrote:Two things ...
* I think we can discuss RDF guidelines and moderation without getting personal and/or insulting about members or staff of RDF, past or present. [/my opinion]
* Any discussion which becomes personal may be split and moved to our In Depth forum if it continues. [/staff comment]
I will try to be impersonal - though there are situations where I think specifics are necessary for context. I still try to stray from personal attacks and slurs, though.
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
:-|
Sigh...

I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!


Sigh...

I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.

Then they for sudden joy did weep,
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
And I for sorrow sung,
That such a king should play bo-peep,
And go the fools among.
Prithee, nuncle, keep a schoolmaster that can teach
thy fool to lie: I would fain learn to lie.
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Go on - have a row and get banned. You know you want to.lordpasternack wrote:Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!:-|
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Sigh...
I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.

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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Thus I stand by my asessment of her bitchery. I did appreciate that she told me I had been banned for having an SP. Probably just wanted me to stop bothering trying again.Major Eyeswater wrote:Go on - have a row and get banned. You know you want to.lordpasternack wrote:Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!:-|
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Sigh...
I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.
BTW, LP, great pic!

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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Normally, I stay out of these discussion, but this has gotten very, very, very old. Actually, it wasn't Topsy who did that. Also, if it's the post I think it was, it was probably moved for being off topic. Instead of just accusing someone publicly, you should have taken the time to find out the who and why of the situation. If you have a problem with her or think she has a problem with you, why don't you try working it out over there via PM. This is beginning to look like a smear campaign. In my opinion, you should apologize to Topsy and perhaps take to time to ask why your post was moved and who did it if you are so curious.lordpasternack wrote:Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!:-|
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Sigh...
I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.
It's posts and threads like this that make me wonder at times if I'm even wanted or welcomed here anymore since the staff at RDF seems to be such a hideous, uncaring, hateful group of people to so many here.
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Ayaan wrote:Normally, I stay out of these discussion, but this has gotten very, very, very old. Actually, it wasn't Topsy who did that. Also, if it's the post I think it was, it was probably moved for being off topic. Instead of just accusing someone publicly, you should have taken the time to find out the who and why of the situation. If you have a problem with her or think she has a problem with you, why don't you try working it out over there via PM. This is beginning to look like a smear campaign. In my opinion, you should apologize to Topsy and perhaps take to time to ask why your post was moved and who did it if you are so curious.lordpasternack wrote:Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!:-|
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Sigh...
I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.
It's posts and threads like this that make me wonder at times if I'm even wanted or welcomed here anymore since the staff at RDF seems to be such a hideous, uncaring, hateful group of people to so many here.



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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
Absolutely.CJ wrote:Ayaan wrote:Normally, I stay out of these discussion, but this has gotten very, very, very old. Actually, it wasn't Topsy who did that. Also, if it's the post I think it was, it was probably moved for being off topic. Instead of just accusing someone publicly, you should have taken the time to find out the who and why of the situation. If you have a problem with her or think she has a problem with you, why don't you try working it out over there via PM. This is beginning to look like a smear campaign. In my opinion, you should apologize to Topsy and perhaps take to time to ask why your post was moved and who did it if you are so curious.lordpasternack wrote:Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!:-|
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Sigh...
I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.
It's posts and threads like this that make me wonder at times if I'm even wanted or welcomed here anymore since the staff at RDF seems to be such a hideous, uncaring, hateful group of people to so many here.![]()
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Re: Richard Dawkins' forum run by prefects with swagger sticks?
ThirdedMarmaduke wrote:Absolutely.CJ wrote:Ayaan wrote:Normally, I stay out of these discussion, but this has gotten very, very, very old. Actually, it wasn't Topsy who did that. Also, if it's the post I think it was, it was probably moved for being off topic. Instead of just accusing someone publicly, you should have taken the time to find out the who and why of the situation. If you have a problem with her or think she has a problem with you, why don't you try working it out over there via PM. This is beginning to look like a smear campaign. In my opinion, you should apologize to Topsy and perhaps take to time to ask why your post was moved and who did it if you are so curious.lordpasternack wrote:Oh fucking hell, I had a post binned for correcting the grating grammatical error in this post:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/vie ... d#p2119863
Topsy, Topsy, Topsy - oh thou art so fickle, and so utterly... I don't even have the word for it.It would of been good to have a poll on this thread!:-|
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Sigh...
I don't want to engage her in discourse. I'll just leave it. Time for another mini-recession in my posting habits there.
It's posts and threads like this that make me wonder at times if I'm even wanted or welcomed here anymore since the staff at RDF seems to be such a hideous, uncaring, hateful group of people to so many here.![]()
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