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Post by Existentialist1844 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:30 pm

"Anyone can give up, it's the easiest thing in the world to do. But to hold it together when everyone else would understand if you fell apart, that's true strength."

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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:25 pm

The assumption was that Canada would represent the ideal geographic forum through which the British could wage war against the United States.


Not the yanks have trust issues or anything. :coffee:
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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Bella Fortuna » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:26 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
The assumption was that Canada would represent the ideal geographic forum through which the British could wage war against the United States.


Not the yanks have trust issues or anything. :coffee:
What are you implying? :what:

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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:40 pm

War Plans are theoretical exercises. Its better to have a plan and not need it than to need a plan and not have it. The feeling in the late 1930s was that Canada would fight on even if England fell to Black. But, just in case.

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Post by Rum » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:44 pm

It is the case that planners make contingency plans for all sorts of ..er..contingencies. I believe the USA have one for invading Canada!

Until I got myself off it cos it was a tedious task, was on a council emergency planning group. One of the scenarios we had to make plans for was the possibility of Sellafield (Britain's largest nuclear reprocessing plant, which some idiot decided to place on the west coast here because it is remote) should blow up. Fun was had by all at the prospect of what to do as the land became irradiated for fifty miles around the thing!

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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:03 pm

Rumertron wrote:It is the case that planners make contingency plans for all sorts of ..er..contingencies. I believe the USA have one for invading Canada!

Until I got myself off it cos it was a tedious task, was on a council emergency planning group. One of the scenarios we had to make plans for was the possibility of Sellafield (Britain's largest nuclear reprocessing plant, which some idiot decided to place on the west coast here because it is remote) should blow up. Fun was had by all at the prospect of what to do as the land became irradiated for fifty miles around the thing!
The North would become an inhospitable wasteland.





Who'd notice? :dono:
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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Drewish » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:07 pm

Sounds like the basis for an awesome Hearts of Iron mod.
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Post by Rum » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:10 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rumertron wrote:It is the case that planners make contingency plans for all sorts of ..er..contingencies. I believe the USA have one for invading Canada!

Until I got myself off it cos it was a tedious task, was on a council emergency planning group. One of the scenarios we had to make plans for was the possibility of Sellafield (Britain's largest nuclear reprocessing plant, which some idiot decided to place on the west coast here because it is remote) should blow up. Fun was had by all at the prospect of what to do as the land became irradiated for fifty miles around the thing!
The North would become an inhospitable wasteland.

Who'd notice? :dono:
Bricks. Glass houses? Staffordshire?

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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:12 pm

andrewclunn wrote:Sounds like the basis for an awesome Hearts of Iron mod.
Try this one:

England decides to go for peace in July, 1940. In December a fascist backed coup d'etat takes over the country. Mexico, noting the US isolationist (i.e., "fuck everybody else") stance, decides Germans passing through are better than Germans coming to stay. In June of 1941 the Germans ship 50 divisions of troops with "right of passage" to Mexico, and turns a blind eye to all the "tourists with tanks." The Germans line up on the Rio Grande. Meanwhile, the Japanese tourism in Baja California has reached stagger proportions as the troops earmarked for the invasion of Malaya and NEI are turned west.
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:13 pm

Rumertron wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rumertron wrote:It is the case that planners make contingency plans for all sorts of ..er..contingencies. I believe the USA have one for invading Canada!

Until I got myself off it cos it was a tedious task, was on a council emergency planning group. One of the scenarios we had to make plans for was the possibility of Sellafield (Britain's largest nuclear reprocessing plant, which some idiot decided to place on the west coast here because it is remote) should blow up. Fun was had by all at the prospect of what to do as the land became irradiated for fifty miles around the thing!
The North would become an inhospitable wasteland.

Who'd notice? :dono:
Bricks. Glass houses? Staffordshire?

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Staffordshire? Yup - wasteland.


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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Drewish » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:20 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:Sounds like the basis for an awesome Hearts of Iron mod.
Try this one:

England decides to go for peace in July, 1940. In December a fascist backed coup d'etat takes over the country. Mexico, noting the US isolationist (i.e., "fuck everybody else") stance, decides Germans passing through are better than Germans coming to stay. In June of 1941 the Germans ship 50 divisions of troops with "right of passage" to Mexico, and turns a blind eye to all the "tourists with tanks." The Germans line up on the Rio Grande. Meanwhile, the Japanese tourism in Baja California has reached stagger proportions as the troops earmarked for the invasion of Malaya and NEI are turned west.
You've given this some real thought... Now I'm a bit scared.
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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:35 pm

andrewclunn wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
andrewclunn wrote:Sounds like the basis for an awesome Hearts of Iron mod.
Try this one:

England decides to go for peace in July, 1940. In December a fascist backed coup d'etat takes over the country. Mexico, noting the US isolationist (i.e., "fuck everybody else") stance, decides Germans passing through are better than Germans coming to stay. In June of 1941 the Germans ship 50 divisions of troops with "right of passage" to Mexico, and turns a blind eye to all the "tourists with tanks." The Germans line up on the Rio Grande. Meanwhile, the Japanese tourism in Baja California has reached stagger proportions as the troops earmarked for the invasion of Malaya and NEI are turned west.
You've given this some real thought... Now I'm a bit scared.
I developed that scenario while studying the America First Movement. Charles Lindbergh was the "name" in that group.

Edited for mo bettah Engrish:

Try this one:

Scenario: England decides to go for peace in July, 1940. In December a fascist backed coup d'etat takes over the country. Mexico, noting the US isolationist (i.e., "fuck everybody else") stance, decides Germans passing through are better than Germans coming to stay. In June of 1941 the Germans ship 50 divisions of troops with "right of passage" to Mexico, and Mexico turns a blind eye to all the "tourists with tanks." The Germans line up on the Rio Grande. Meanwhile, the Japanese tourism in Baja California has reached staggering proportions as the troops earmarked for the invasion of Malaya and NEI are turned west.

Meanwhile the new National British Socialist Government has recruited Canadian forces to keep US troops tied down along the longest (previously) undefended border in the world. The Canadians bomb Detroit and in retaliation the Americans bomb Pittsburgh.
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Re: War Plan Red

Post by Thinking Aloud » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:49 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:The Canadians bomb Detroit and in retaliation the Americans bomb Pittsburgh.
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