Blind groper wrote:Seth wrote:If the government bans handguns, I'm going into the business of manufacturing high-quality "illegal" handguns for the "criminal element" that will readily buy them outside the "legal" market for firearms,
And you claim you are not a psychopath.
Yup. I'm a patriot and defender of the Constitution. Since the Constitution forbids my government from banning firearms, any attempt to do so is an act of lawless tyranny which may be justifiably met with force if the government refuses to come to heel.
The main characteristic of a psychopath is a lack of feeling for other humans, and the willingness to do anything, no matter how much it harms others, if it enriches yourself. Your statement above is absolute classic psychopath.
You don't understand, I would build guns BECAUSE I have empathy and concern for others. I understand history, as you do not, which amply demonstrates time and time again over the course of thousands of years that the very first thing that a despotic tyrant does is to disarm the public, most often using lame excuses of "public safety" to convince the credulous masses to give up their arms, and using brutal force to strip them of their arms if they cannot cozen them into handing them over. What inevitably follows is oppression, murder, genocide and all manner of despotic malfeasance because the people have no way to resist the onslaught of tyranny. The only recourse the people have when a tyrant takes power is force of arms and to free themselves from despotism they must have adequate arms to achieve their liberty and freedom. I'm not even going to bother to list the litany of societies that have been subjugated and enslaved, sometimes for hundreds or thousands of years because they are unarmed and unable to rise up and overthrow a tyrant. One example will do: Rome.
So, you see, I have great empathy and concern for my fellow human beings and I know that by providing them with arms when they are under the boot-heel of a tyrant they will have the capacity to win their freedom. Interestingly, it is the policy of the United States to arm rebel forces fighting against tyrants and despots and regimes that are hostile to the universal rights of human beings, which makes any attempt at domestic gun bans hypocrisy of the highest order. It was, after all, France that came to our aid in our rebellion against Mad King George and his Redcoats by supplying us with arms, power, shot and other supplies. We won our independence because both King George and the French knew that arms in the hands of the people is the surest barrier against tyranny, and our Revolution succeeded, where rebellions in other English vassal states usually failed, because our arms were the equal of our enemies.
You have it exactly backwards. Disarming the citizenry is not an act of empathy, it is a hostile act of selfishness and arrogance intended to pander to your own paranoid fears and desire for the illusion of safety at the expense of everyone who will inevitably be victimized, injured and killed by criminals and tyrants. It is you who is demonstrating psychopathy. It is you who is disregarding the supreme and preeminent right of each and every individual human being on the face of the planet to be adequately armed at all times so that they can effectively defend themselves, their families, their communities and their nations against both criminal victimization of all types, and against tyrannical despotism from their leaders. Only a psychopath would deny a victim the arms required to successfully defend himself on the fallacious premise that 300 million people must be disarmed and victimized to serve your paranoid fears and the "needs" of a tiny fraction of a percent of citizens who, unfortunately, misuse or abuse their rights.
In no other sphere would your argument even make sense. The number of people killed in auto accidents is many times that of handgun homicides, and yet we hear no argument from you that cars should be banned, do we? Nope. The number of children killed by bathtubs, swimming pools and five gallon buckets is much higher than those accidentally killed by firearms, and yet you do not advocate for banning any of those objects.
Don't bother with your usual canard of "but guns are different than swimming pools or cars, they are designed to kill and there is utility in cars and swimming pools." Wrong. Guns, all guns, are designed to expel a projectile in a specified direction at high velocity on command and nothing more, just as swimming pools are designed for water recreation, not as child drowning machines.
Because you studiously ignore the huge number of incidents in which a firearm, possessed and used lawfully, PREVENTS criminal victimization and preserve lives, your arguments are just so much propagandistic bilge, and you know it, which is why you refuse to even address the subject of this thread and instead continue to derail the topic with your tired old hoplophobic canards that have been disproven and debunked so often that it's no longer necessary to do more than laugh at your pathetic attempts to formulate a cogent argument.
It has been estimated that 3% of the population are psychopaths. That means roughly 1 in 30. Since there are more than 30 contributors to Rationalia, there is very likely one or more psychopaths among the membership. Is Seth one of them?
Nope. As we can see, it's you who is manifesting narcissistic tendencies and paranoid pathological behavior. You're afraid of guns, so you want everyone else to kowtow to you and your silly arguments to assuage your fear. Not gonna happen. Sleep tight.
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