Troy Davis

[Tyrannical]

I think that if a state wants to execute people it should be viewed on live TV and be as bloody and messy as possible.

Just so everyone knows exactly what is going on.

Can we compromise and agree with public hangings?
They say the youth are impressionable, and this is the impression you wish to make. Crime doesn't pay

[Svartalf]

I wonder if dismal tory moron Priti Patel is feeling as self-satisfied as she normally looks this morning after her attempt to bring dp back a few weeks ago.

Where was she trying to bring me back to?

Back to the Viking age, when a guy could kill you for looking at him wrong and then just pay a fine to your next of kin.

I'm not sure that system is so bad, at least in most cases
Most murderers would be unable to pay, and would then be killed quickly themselves. Most millionaire crime is financial, and with the appropriate fine they would also soon be unable to pay.
Besides, this form of justice does encourage certain forms of politeness.

You may also want to know that at the time, justice was a purely personal/clan matter. Kings and nobles would intervene only between/on behalf of their henchmen/followers/clients, "courts" were mostly a bunch or arbiters whose decision was mandatory only if both parties had agreed to abide by it, and there certainly was no state system to see it enforced.

Douchebags from powerful families often went about bragging about the people they had killed or maimed without ever paying out a single ounce of silver.

[Bella Fortuna]

This surreptitious photograph was taken at the moment of electrocution of Ruth Snyder (the first woman to be executed so) in 1928. Didn't seem to have affected much.

[devogue]

I think that if a state wants to execute people it should be viewed on live TV and be as bloody and messy as possible.

Just so everyone knows exactly what is going on.

Can we compromise and agree with public hangings?
They say the youth are impressionable, and this is the impression you wish to make. Crime doesn't pay

Whatever you like, just as long as the public sees how the state physically attacks one of its members for them.

[Svartalf]

Yay Memory (if like 36hr belated). Mumia Abu Jamal is still waiting for the needle.

[Ian]

Dammit, Georgia.

And 31 other states (and especially Texas).
The death penalty is a pretty backwards idea, even when the prisoner is dead-to-rights guilty.

[Robert_S]

Could Somebody remind me who that journalist/activist is/was that was a poster boy about the death penalty system in the US? IIRC, he has/had (I can't fecking remember if he's alive or dead) also supposedly killed a cop, which he always denied, but if memory serves, he was some kind of black panther with a muslim name.

I noticed that nobody talked about him on the news today, which I found strange as the leftists in Radio France used to take any possible excuse to trot him out. But for the life of me, I can't remember the name, or if he's been executed or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal

[Rum]

I think that if a state wants to execute people it should be viewed on live TV and be as bloody and messy as possible.

Just so everyone knows exactly what is going on.

Can we compromise and agree with public hangings?
They say the youth are impressionable, and this is the impression you wish to make. Crime doesn't pay

Whatever you like, just as long as the public sees how the state physically attacks one of its members for them.

I agree completely. But we are stupid most of us though and its a case of out of sight out of mind.

If we saw how our meat is produced first hand it would put a lot of people off. That's why we don't I guess.

[Ian]

I think that if a state wants to execute people it should be viewed on live TV and be as bloody and messy as possible.

Just so everyone knows exactly what is going on.

I don't know if that would work. Almost every execution done in US states these days is by lethal injection(s). It's not much different from how one puts down an animal, which I had to do a few years ago. That was neither bloody nor messy.

[borealis]

I think that if a state wants to execute people it should be viewed on live TV and be as bloody and messy as possible.

Just so everyone knows exactly what is going on.

I don't know if that would work. Almost every execution done in US states these days is by lethal injection(s). It's not much different from how one puts down an animal, which I had to do a few years ago. That was neither bloody nor messy.

If they drop the muscle relaxant from the list, it might make it look more.... interesting

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I think that if a state wants to execute people it should be viewed on live TV and be as bloody and messy as possible.

Just so everyone knows exactly what is going on.

I can't see how making it the most watched Youtube clip would help.

[Clinton Huxley]

Aye, once again the injustice and barbarism of the death penalty is exposed.

Indeed, if it were just, people like you would get acquainted to lampposts via hempen products in a hurry

And people like you would be left alone. To be French is punishment enough.

[mistermack]

Out of ALL crimes, I would be most worried about the killing of a cop.

The pressure on the police, prosecuters, judges and juries to convict someone is intense.
The police do NOT, under any circumstances, want it to remain unsolved, and will happily frame someone that they think probably did it.
It seems to have happened in this case. The witnesses at the original trial had obviously been leaned on, and the vital shell case, allegedly "found" by a homeless man long after the investigation had finished was pretty obviously planted later, for him to find by arrangement.
He may have been guilty, but fuck me, there is huge doubt in the matter. He certainly got stitched up by the police. It sticks out a mile.

The trouble is that once the "trial" is over, they regard it as sacred. Even if the defence was totally incompetent, no new evidence is allowed that could have been heard at the trial.
And nobody makes much of an effort in the first place, in the case of a cop killing.
So basically, if you're poor, you're fucked.
You can't prepare your own defence, and the state defender will be incompetent and indifferent.

[FBM]

Wtf. I don't watch TV shows.

Not the TV show. This: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/

Ah. Downl...Acquisition in progress.

[Posse Comitatus]