Like a bowel movement?Chuck Jones wrote:Take it however you want, MCJ. I consider it a movement.
Does Richard Dawkins represent the majority of atheists?
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If it's an inconvenience to Chip, would someone else just ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION? It's not like I'm asking for a rim-job FFS.
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins represent the majority of atheists?
Chuck Jones wrote:Take it however you want, MCJ. I consider it a movement.
Well you are wrong then aren't you ..Unless science is a recent movement or philosophy or clear thinking ?
or is atheism all new then ? Really this idea that atheism is a new movement with our great leader Dawkins at the head is fucking stupid .
and you know that is the case don't you Chuck ? the fact that more and more people can and are saying they don't believe in a god without the penalties and stigma that used to go with that does not make it a movement ,it's not a fad or a craze or a meme . It's the truth . Intelligent people have been not believing for thousands of years and the religious ,at best, have been steadily moving the goal posts ,(their god of the gaps is pretty small now
). Or at worst persecuting ,marginalising and generally trying to save face when their lies are brought into scrutiny .
What is it exactly you believe in Chuck ? Did you chose those beliefs because you actually think they are true ,or did you seize on them as being difficult to disprove with evidence ? Pantheism WTF?just hippy woo please explain why it is so different form atheism and why you believe in it




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Re: Does Richard Dawkins represent the majority of atheists?
Chuck Jones wrote:Take it however you want, MCJ. I consider it a movement.
Chuck, I doubt you will find anyone from here, and probably not RatSkep or the Dawkins site calling it a "movement" The mainstream media may well do so; they have a compulsion to stick labels of groups of people, or on trends in the narrative of the world. The "New Atheists" tag was not self-attributed by Sam, Richard, Chris and the rest...Chuck Jones wrote:Other people are using the same word. Why don't you ask them?

Tero, I remember you provided a link to his material in the early days of your membership here - good stuff, as I recall...Tero wrote:Im on ipod so cant link, but Google Joseph McCabe and see very similar thinking 1930 to 1950, also marketed as education for the masses, the Blue Booklets. A former monk, he was quite militant.

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I've heard claims that herding atheists is like herding cats.
From what I've seen, it's just like herding any other group of people.
Incredibly easy if you know how.
From what I've seen, it's just like herding any other group of people.
Incredibly easy if you know how.
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Dawkins lacks a belief in any god whatsoever, and that lack of belief is the only feature on grounds of which he can be said to be representative of atheists. Statistically speaking, atheists tend to commit fewer crimes, be better educated and are more likely to have a liberal and humanist attitude, but apart from the lack of belief in any god thingy there is nothing that defines atheists as such.
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It's a movement. Dawkins is your guru. You worship and follow him. You pray to him. The god delusion is our bible. You bash that bible. You are bible bashers.
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Except for websites with wanky sub-titles like "Oasis of Clear-Thinking".Seraph wrote:Dawkins lacks a belief in any god whatsoever, and that lack of belief is the only feature on grounds of which he can be said to be representative of atheists. Statistically speaking, atheists tend to commit fewer crimes, be better educated and are more likely to have a liberal and humanist attitude, but apart from the lack of belief in any god thingy there is nothing that defines atheists as such.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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Chuck Jones wrote:It's a movement. Dawkins is your guru. You worship and follow him. You pray to him. The god delusion is our bible. You bash that bible. You are bible bashers.

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Twerp.Chuck Jones wrote:It's a movement. Dawkins is your guru. You worship and follow him. You pray to him. The god delusion is our bible. You bash that bible. You are bible bashers.
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Ow! That stung!Chuck Jones wrote:Atheist.

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Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
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This is the wrong forum for bluffing

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I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
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Re: Does Richard Dawkins represent the majority of atheists?
Well he got three thrings right:MCJ wrote:Twerp.Chuck Jones wrote:It's a movement. Dawkins is your guru. You worship and follow him. You pray to him. The god delusion is our bible. You bash that bible. You are bible bashers.
Their God-delusion stems from their bible.
Atheists, or more accurately, anti-theists, "bash", or rather point out the contradictions, impossibilities, errors, and outright lies to be found in it. Not to mention bring to light the true historicity of the book itself - a historicity believers would rather not know.
We, or some/most, of us are anti-theists.
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I wank over pictures of him too.Chuck Jones wrote:It's a movement. Dawkins is your guru. You worship and follow him. You pray to him. The god delusion is our bible. You bash that bible. You are bible bashers.
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