I've not stated one way or the other what I think DAwkins meant. This is your hobby-horse, old chap. If you think you are free of bias, though, you have deluded yourself.Exi5tentialist wrote:I am using what Dawkins has said to decide what he meant. What bias are you using to decide what he didn't mean?Clinton Huxley wrote:No, you are using your biases to decide what Dawkin's meant
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Dawkins isn't characterising the women who wear the niqab as rubbish - that's why he objects to the niqab. It's not difficult to understand, unless you're determined not to.Exi5tentialist wrote:Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.Gawdzilla wrote:He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.
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He can't back off it, even after you point out the error. Because he's NEVER WRONG.DaveD wrote:Dawkins isn't characterising the women who wear the niqab as rubbish - that's why he objects to the niqab. It's not difficult to understand, unless you're determined not to.Exi5tentialist wrote:Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.Gawdzilla wrote:He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.
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Question: What exactly is his agenda?Gawdzilla wrote:Sorry, chuckles, but he's pointing out that the Islamic system puts the women in the bin liners, demonstrating their attitude toward women. You, on the other hand, are lying about Dawkin's position to support your own agenda. In the process you make fauxlosphers look even worse than normal. Thanks for the help with that, I'll save your shite for future use.Exi5tentialist wrote:Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.Gawdzilla wrote:He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.
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Oh no old chap, you only went and state that Dawkins's use of English is "entirely correct"Clinton Huxley wrote:I've not stated one way or the other what I think DAwkins meant. This is your hobby-horse, old chap.
Please don't waste our time.Clinton Huxley wrote:Alien - inconsistent or incompatible with, according to my battered old Chambers.
In which case, when talking about science and Islam, the DAwk's use of English is entirely correct.
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His agenda is "I am right, you are wrong." Nothing more.PordFrefect wrote:Question: What exactly is his agenda?
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Exi5 makes a very good point. I believe he's pointing out the salient issue of perspective, but I think you know that.DaveD wrote:Dawkins isn't characterising the women who wear the niqab as rubbish - that's why he objects to the niqab. It's not difficult to understand, unless you're determined not to.Exi5tentialist wrote:Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.Gawdzilla wrote:He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.
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It's a gross mis-characterization of Dawkin's position, so it's invalid from the start.PordFrefect wrote:Exi5 makes a very good point. I believe he's pointing out the salient issue of perspective, but I think you know that.DaveD wrote:Dawkins isn't characterising the women who wear the niqab as rubbish - that's why he objects to the niqab. It's not difficult to understand, unless you're determined not to.Exi5tentialist wrote:Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.Gawdzilla wrote:He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.
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I can't help it if his use of English is entirely correct nor that that fact upsets you.Exi5tentialist wrote:Oh no old chap, you only went and state that Dawkins's use of English is "entirely correct"Clinton Huxley wrote:I've not stated one way or the other what I think DAwkins meant. This is your hobby-horse, old chap.
Please don't waste our time.Clinton Huxley wrote:Alien - inconsistent or incompatible with, according to my battered old Chambers.
In which case, when talking about science and Islam, the DAwk's use of English is entirely correct.
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Gawdzilla - your position is the biggest fauxlosophy going. You are happy to make the supposition that muslim women wearing the niqab do not take responsibility for doing so. It sounds to me as if you haven't read any Sartre at all, let alone enough to call him a fauxlosopher!Gawdzilla wrote:Sorry, chuckles, but he's pointing out that the Islamic system puts the women in the bin liners, demonstrating their attitude toward women. You, on the other hand, are lying about Dawkin's position to support your own agenda. In the process you make fauxlosphers look even worse than normal. Thanks for the help with that, I'll save your shite for future use.
I'd love to know what lies you think I've stated about Dawkins. I think I've described his two-faced use of language rather accurately.
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You've chosen a denotation that suits your argument and ignored others - never mind the ugly connotations of the word in the context.Clinton Huxley wrote:I can't help it if his use of English is entirely correct nor that that fact upsets you.Exi5tentialist wrote:Oh no old chap, you only went and state that Dawkins's use of English is "entirely correct"Clinton Huxley wrote:I've not stated one way or the other what I think DAwkins meant. This is your hobby-horse, old chap.
Please don't waste our time.Clinton Huxley wrote:Alien - inconsistent or incompatible with, according to my battered old Chambers.
In which case, when talking about science and Islam, the DAwk's use of English is entirely correct.

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Gosh, that makes me unique.PordFrefect wrote:You've chosen a denotation that suits your argument and ignored others - never mind the ugly connotations of the word in the context.Clinton Huxley wrote:I can't help it if his use of English is entirely correct nor that that fact upsets you.Exi5tentialist wrote:Oh no old chap, you only went and state that Dawkins's use of English is "entirely correct"Clinton Huxley wrote:I've not stated one way or the other what I think DAwkins meant. This is your hobby-horse, old chap.
Please don't waste our time.Clinton Huxley wrote:Alien - inconsistent or incompatible with, according to my battered old Chambers.
In which case, when talking about science and Islam, the DAwk's use of English is entirely correct.
I've just illustrated that a different interpretation of his words is possible. It's not my problem if some people dislike having alternatives pointed out.
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I'm not calling Satre a fauxlosopher, Chuckles, I'm calling you one. If he signs up hereExi5tentialist wrote:Gawdzilla - your position is the biggest fauxlosophy going. You are happy to make the supposition that muslim women wearing the niqab do not take responsibility for doing so. It sounds to me as if you haven't read any Sartre at all, let alone enough to call him a fauxlosopher!Gawdzilla wrote:Sorry, chuckles, but he's pointing out that the Islamic system puts the women in the bin liners, demonstrating their attitude toward women. You, on the other hand, are lying about Dawkin's position to support your own agenda. In the process you make fauxlosphers look even worse than normal. Thanks for the help with that, I'll save your shite for future use.

You have to read the thread instead of just posting, sweetie.I'd love to know what lies you think I've stated about Dawkins. I think I've described his two-faced use of language rather accurately.
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I am not the slightest bit interested in Dawkins's linguistic competence. You said his use of English was correct in talking about science and islam. You clearly agree with what he said, hence your reason for affirming its correctness in that context. Your position is becoming as two-faced as Dawkins. I suppose this is not surprising.Clinton Huxley wrote:I can't help it if his use of English is entirely correct nor that that fact upsets you.
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