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Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:15 am

An AF guy posted this in another forum I frequent.
DefenseNews.com
September 28, 2011

Pentagon Skeptical On Iran's Naval Posturing
By Andrew Tilghman

Iranian officials say their navy will deploy ships to the Atlantic Ocean near the U.S. coastlines, but Pentagon officials say they are not concerned.

Top Iranian navy officials said their ships may go as far as the Gulf of Mexico, and Iran may for the first time seek to establish a direct military hotline with the U.S. military, according to reports in the Iranian press.

"We should have a strong presence in all open seas," Iranian Navy Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari told the Tehran Times Tuesday.

Rear Adm. Ali Fadavi said, "When we go to the Gulf of Mexico, we will establish direct communication with them," according to the Iranian newspaper.

A Pentagon spokesman appeared skeptical.

"We'll have to see what they do or don't do after these statements," Pentagon spokesman George Little told reports in Washington on Wednesday. "Whether they can truly project naval power is a question in itself."

Also, Iranian officials said Wednesday that Iran has begun large-scale production of a domestically developed cruise missile designed for sea-based targets and capable of destroying warships.

Defense Minister Gen. Ahmad Vahidi said the missile, which has a range of 124 miles, can travel at low altitudes and "can sink giant warships." The comments appeared to suggest that the new missile could potentially counter the U.S. naval presence in the Persian Gulf.

The West is already concerned about Iran's military capabilities, especially the implications of the country's disputed nuclear program. The U.S. and some of its allies, and as the U.N. nuclear agency, the International Atomic Energy Agency, fear that Iran is trying to produce a nuclear weapon. Tehran denies the charges.

The Associated Press contributed to this story.
Iran: We'll send ships to your coast!
US: Sure, go for it.

Seriously, what's your take on this, especially the people here who are ex navy.
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Post by Rum » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:38 am

The Iranians have delusions of grandeur and their posturing only goes to show how shallow their statehood really is.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:01 am

Beware the Persian Armada
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Post by wittywoman » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:35 am

:flowers: Well done Obama: The US Gov has taken one of its rare RIGHT foreign policy decissions. In a very diplomatic way, they have laughed at the bully
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:29 am

Was listening to Radio 4 the other day and there was a BBC journalist interviewing people in Tehran. It was interesting that there were people prepared to quite openly call the Govt fascists, express embarrassment at things like holocaust denial and generally deride the Iranian govt. There are a lot of young people in Iran who are just as tired of their Govts posturing as the West is.
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Post by Azathoth » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:31 am

Heh, silly Iranians. They may have a massive army but trying to threaten the US with their navy is quite funny
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:34 am

Azathoth wrote:Heh, silly Iranians. They may have a massive army but trying to threaten the US with their navy is quite funny
To paraphrase Kaiser Wilhelm - if the Iranian Navy does show up, the US could have the Coastguard arrest it.
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Post by Ian » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:28 pm

I think everyone's got the right idea here, and I'm glad the Obama administration does too. This is probably no more than hyperbole (rabid anti-Americanism/anti-westernism/anti-Zionism/etc is just a political lever than Tehran's leaders like to press), and if they actually try it then it'll be a laughable stunt. If they do show up, it'll be no more than one or two Vosper-class frigates, supported by an oiler (lest they have to beg for fuel someplace). And I don't know if they're even capable of underway replenishment.

Imagining that force next to what's based in Norfolk (where I was based for six years), and I can't help but chuckle. Militarily, this is a total non-issue.

Whether it be dumb rhetoric or a silly stunt, Iran's leaders are only embarassing themselves.

Another post I made on the subject a few days ago:
http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... et#p987813

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Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:31 pm

Maybe they'll use those frigates to send Obama a birthday present with full military honors?
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Post by Ian » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:34 pm

Svartalf wrote:Maybe they'll use those frigates to send Obama a birthday present with full military honors?
The Navy could return the favor by sending them to the bottom of the Atlantic without breaking a sweat.

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:36 pm

A drunken tourist in a pedalo would stand a pretty good chance of sinking them.
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Post by Feck » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:39 pm

You think the Israel would let them out of the Med ?
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Post by Ian » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:46 pm

Feck wrote:You think the Israel would let them out of the Med ?
Why wouldn't they?


What Obama should do to really embarass them: publicly offer to let the Iranian ships dock for a port visit.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:55 pm

Distraction and fake incompetance whilst they get the range for US cities, and prepare a permanent mid-atlantic presence beyond the reach of coastal radar. Pearl Harbour, 9/11 and now this. How unlucky can one country be? :smoke:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:58 pm

Those frigates were made in Britain in the 60s. They'll break down before they get to the Azores.
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