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Re: Affect and effect

Post by rachelbean » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:31 pm

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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Tigger » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:40 pm

rachelbean wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Weird, it doesn't affect me at all :tea:
See - used like this I have no idea which is right or wrong - and I can't work it out based on any explanations. :think:
Using Ani's explanation you can work it out pretty easily, for instance: What I do has an affect on people, the effects of which may vary.
Except it's wrong, and the earthquake could affect the city quite easily. The effect was a disaster, affecting the city and its people.

Effect is (usually) a noun, if you can say thE whatever, then it's Effect.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by PsychoSerenity » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:56 pm

:cry:

I don't get it, and I suspect I never will.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by rachelbean » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:58 pm

Tigger wrote:
rachelbean wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Weird, it doesn't affect me at all :tea:
See - used like this I have no idea which is right or wrong - and I can't work it out based on any explanations. :think:
Using Ani's explanation you can work it out pretty easily, for instance: What I do has an affect on people, the effects of which may vary.
Except it's wrong, and the earthquake could affect the city quite easily. The effect was a disaster, affecting the city and its people.

Effect is (usually) a noun, if you can say thE whatever, then it's Effect.
Yes, I realized the noun/verb distinction was a lot more helpful which is why I followed up with that. It's not always right, but the exceptions are rare and not normally where people get confused.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Tigger » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:59 pm

rachelbean wrote:
Tigger wrote:
rachelbean wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Weird, it doesn't affect me at all :tea:
See - used like this I have no idea which is right or wrong - and I can't work it out based on any explanations. :think:
Using Ani's explanation you can work it out pretty easily, for instance: What I do has an affect on people, the effects of which may vary.
Except it's wrong, and the earthquake could affect the city quite easily. The effect was a disaster, affecting the city and its people.

Effect is (usually) a noun, if you can say thE whatever, then it's Effect.
Yes, I realized the noun/verb distinction was a lot more helpful which is why I followed up with that. It's not always right, but the exceptions are rare and not normally where people get confused.
Sorry, I wasn't telling you that stuff. I was just adding some, er, help.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by FBM » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:11 pm

Pappa wrote:
FBM wrote:It doesn't help that both can be used as either nouns or verbs.
I think that's the problem. I forget because I know one of them (effect) also means to cause something to come into being as a verb.
Which causes my avoidance of both of those words. :tup:
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:13 pm

Lot's of things affect me but the only thing that has ever effected me is my parents fucking. :tea:
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by FBM » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:16 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Lot's of things affect me but the only thing that has ever effected me is my parents fucking. :tea:
:tea: is a flat affect. It has a certain effect on those who see it. :ele:
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:45 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Weird, it doesn't affect me at all :tea:
See - used like this I have no idea which is right or wrong - and I can't work it out based on any explanations. :think:
Just go with affection and effective.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:12 am

This is why it can be confusing:

I effected a change in the system which affected many of the account holders. Various effects, including an extremely angry affect were caused.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:13 am

Pappa wrote:This is why it can be confusing:

I effected a change in the system which affected many of the account holders. Various effects, including an extremely angry affect were caused.
Actually.... if I remember that line, I might just remember how to use it properly from now on. :hehe:
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:13 am

Pappa wrote:This is why it can be confusing:

I effected a change in the system which affected many of the account holders. Various effects, including an extremely angry affect were caused.
Why is that confusing?


I effected (action) a change in the system which affected (emotion) many of the account holders. Various effects (actions), including an extremely angry affect (emotion) were caused.
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:14 am

Pappa wrote:
Pappa wrote:This is why it can be confusing:

I effected a change in the system which affected many of the account holders. Various effects, including an extremely angry affect were caused.
Actually.... if I remember that line, I might just remember how to use it properly from now on. :hehe:
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:16 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Pappa wrote:This is why it can be confusing:

I effected a change in the system which affected many of the account holders. Various effects, including an extremely angry affect were caused.
Why is that confusing?


I effected (action) a change in the system which affected (emotion) many of the account holders. Various effects (actions), including an extremely angry affect (emotion) were caused.
Except you got that bit wrong, and the first "effected" means "to bring about".
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Re: Affect and effect

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:11 pm

These two pages explain the difference between and correct usage of affect and effect as well as it can be explained:

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Affect_vs_Effect
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Affected_vs_Effected
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