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Re: Jail?..or Church!

Post by Svartalf » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:19 am

Dunno, I always felt aversion for that symphony... there's something between classical music and the human voice that I just don't like.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:52 am

There would have to be 52 churches in my town. :coffee:
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:17 pm

There is value in convincing people to behave, or burn in hell.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:29 pm

Tyrannical wrote:There is value in convincing people to behave, or burn in hell.
Doesn't seem to be working.
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Post by Feck » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:07 pm

Tyrannical wrote:There is value in convincing people to behave, or burn in hell.
Just like it's ok to hand vulnerable addicts over to the Evangelicals ? Because it's marginally better to be a christian that an alcoholic ?
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:14 pm

Addict or stark raving insane and fanatical? I'll take the former, thank you
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Re: Jail?..or Church!

Post by Hermit » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:53 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:There is value in convincing people to behave, or burn in hell.
Doesn't seem to be working.
The statistics bear you out on that, Gawdzilla. More crimes per capita are committed in godfearing societies than godless ones.
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Re: Jail?..or Church!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:36 am

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Tyrannical wrote:There is value in convincing people to behave, or burn in hell.
Doesn't seem to be working.
The statistics bear you out on that, Gawdzilla. More crimes per capita are committed in godfearing societies than godless ones.
Yep, Hell is not a deterrent.
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Re: Jail?..or Church!

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:01 pm

Feck wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:There is value in convincing people to behave, or burn in hell.
Just like it's ok to hand vulnerable addicts over to the Evangelicals ? Because it's marginally better to be a christian that an alcoholic ?
When properly administered, then yes.
You can teach morality, and then use that whole burn in hell routine to frighten the ignorant into leading moral lives.
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Post by Hermit » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:44 pm

Tyrannical wrote:You can teach morality, and then use that whole burn in hell routine to frighten the ignorant into leading moral lives.
As has been mentioned a couple of times now, crime statistics indicate that this is not the case.
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Re: Jail?..or Church!

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:21 pm

Seraph wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:You can teach morality, and then use that whole burn in hell routine to frighten the ignorant into leading moral lives.
As has been mentioned a couple of times now, crime statistics indicate that this is not the case.
The he be a good boi, he be changin his life 'round and he be goi'n ta church wit me ebery Sundey.

That doesn't count :hehe:

I'm thinking more along the lines of "Forgive me Jesus" :baa:
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