What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
V for Vendetta, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/, is one of my favorite movies of all times. If you've never watched it, you should. This film should be played in the UN for America and Israel to watch these coming weeks as they oppress the Palestinians yet again and continue to steal their homes. Don't worry, one of the lead characters in V for Vendetta, Natalie Portman, is Jewish.
Watch V for Vendetta and see that the Guy Fawkes character shows that "terrorism" is a legitimate means for political change when you are continually oppressed and repressed.
Watch V for Vendetta and see that the Guy Fawkes character shows that "terrorism" is a legitimate means for political change when you are continually oppressed and repressed.
Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
Shh.. we don't like to remember our own history.Gawd wrote:Watch V for Vendetta and see that the Guy Fawkes character shows that "terrorism" is a legitimate means for political change when you are continually oppressed and repressed.


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Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
Do you think the movie might have inspired the Arab Spring to any extent Gawd?
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Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
The comic is in part a dialectic between the extremes of totalitarian power (many as one) and unrestrained individual liberty. It is one of Moore's earlier works, but it shows quite well I think the collusion of the desperate, the weak, the sycophantic and the power hungry in sustaining a state through the use of terror and how that such a machine has difficulty in dealing with a determined irritant.
The movie turned those ideas into a mish mash of "hey isn't humanity, deep down, really great and it's just a few bad apples that spoil democracy for us all."
In short a pile of turgid shit.
The movie turned those ideas into a mish mash of "hey isn't humanity, deep down, really great and it's just a few bad apples that spoil democracy for us all."
In short a pile of turgid shit.
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Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
Its not about oppressive Jews, if thats what you mean.Gawd wrote:V for Vendetta, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/, is one of my favorite movies of all times. If you've never watched it, you should. This film should be played in the UN for America and Israel to watch these coming weeks as they oppress the Palestinians yet again and continue to steal their homes. Don't worry, one of the lead characters in V for Vendetta, Natalie Portman, is Jewish.
Watch V for Vendetta and see that the Guy Fawkes character shows that "terrorism" is a legitimate means for political change when you are continually oppressed and repressed.
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Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
Not all terrorism is the same.
Sometimes it can be called asymmetric warfare, sometimes insurgency, and sometimes it's just plain murder. Sometimes it arises from freedom fighting, and sometimes it has nothing whatsoever to do with freedom.
One should not define terrorism based on how powerful are the terrorist's targets, but based on 1) what the goals of the terrorists are and 2) what are their methods for achieving them. Sometimes "terrorism" (as Gawd calls it) really is terrorism, not freedom fighting.
If I recall correctly, in V for Vendetta, V didn't plant bombs on crowded buses or otherwise indiscriminantly kill civilians.
Sometimes it can be called asymmetric warfare, sometimes insurgency, and sometimes it's just plain murder. Sometimes it arises from freedom fighting, and sometimes it has nothing whatsoever to do with freedom.
One should not define terrorism based on how powerful are the terrorist's targets, but based on 1) what the goals of the terrorists are and 2) what are their methods for achieving them. Sometimes "terrorism" (as Gawd calls it) really is terrorism, not freedom fighting.
If I recall correctly, in V for Vendetta, V didn't plant bombs on crowded buses or otherwise indiscriminantly kill civilians.
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And of course it only works in England, where the sheeple have been disarmed and therefore have no choice but to submit to tyranny.Ian wrote:Not all terrorism is the same.
Sometimes it can be called asymmetric warfare, sometimes insurgency, and sometimes it's just plain murder. Sometimes it arises from freedom fighting, and sometimes it has nothing whatsoever to do with freedom.
One should not define terrorism based on how powerful are the terrorist's targets, but based on 1) what the goals of the terrorists are and 2) what are their means for achieving them. Sometimes "terrorism" (as Gawd calls it) really is terrorism, not freedom fighting.
If I recall correctly, in V for Vendetta, V didn't plant bombs on crowded buses or otherwise indiscriminantly kill civilians.
Note that in the movie, in the United States, there's a lovely civil war going on where people are actually fighting for freedom, and will obtain it because they have more arms and individuals than the standing army.
And the notion that merely blowing up the houses of Parliament, at midnight, when Parliament is not in session, would cause anything but MORE violent repression by the government is just silly. That dumb motherfucker V should have done it when all the corrupt politicians were in the building.
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Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
Do you have a gif of an American plane dropping bombs?Gawdzilla wrote:
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No. I would have expected to see more Guy Fawkes masks.Robert_S wrote:Do you think the movie might have inspired the Arab Spring to any extent Gawd?
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Physical violence in small doses only makes the police stronger. It has to rise to a mass movement before it can effect change. Cyber-violence at the smaller scale might actually work. Something, something about the first shots of a revolution being pointed at the hearts of the writers...
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Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
No one cares about the book. In this day and age, people would rather watch a movie or a YouTube clip and that is what really matters.Audley Strange wrote:The comic is in part a dialectic between the extremes of totalitarian power (many as one) and unrestrained individual liberty. It is one of Moore's earlier works, but it shows quite well I think the collusion of the desperate, the weak, the sycophantic and the power hungry in sustaining a state through the use of terror and how that such a machine has difficulty in dealing with a determined irritant.
The movie turned those ideas into a mish mash of "hey isn't humanity, deep down, really great and it's just a few bad apples that spoil democracy for us all."
In short a pile of turgid shit.
Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
The Guy Fawkes character used knives to slit the throats of the police. That weakened them.amused wrote:Physical violence only makes the police stronger. Cyber-violence might actually work. Something, something about the first shots of a revolution being pointed at the hearts of the writers...
Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
On the contrary, look at the themes and motives throughout the film. It has many aspects that can be interpreted as the oppression of Israel against the Palestinians, especially Hamas. Oh, and I mentioned Natalie Portman is Jewish, because, yah know, I seriously don't think the Israelis would actually watch a film that didn't star a Jew.Lozzer wrote:Its not about oppressive Jews, if thats what you mean.Gawd wrote:V for Vendetta, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/, is one of my favorite movies of all times. If you've never watched it, you should. This film should be played in the UN for America and Israel to watch these coming weeks as they oppress the Palestinians yet again and continue to steal their homes. Don't worry, one of the lead characters in V for Vendetta, Natalie Portman, is Jewish.
Watch V for Vendetta and see that the Guy Fawkes character shows that "terrorism" is a legitimate means for political change when you are continually oppressed and repressed.
Re: What is Your Political Opinion of "V for Vendetta"?
Somehow, I just knew you would post something like this where you try re-defining what "terrorism" is so that whatever your side does is never terrorism. Oh, yeah, V did tie up all those civilians in the TV studio and plant that explosive vest near them by the controls. And you know my stance on civilians as legitimate targets.Ian wrote:Not all terrorism is the same.
Sometimes it can be called asymmetric warfare, sometimes insurgency, and sometimes it's just plain murder. Sometimes it arises from freedom fighting, and sometimes it has nothing whatsoever to do with freedom.
One should not define terrorism based on how powerful are the terrorist's targets, but based on 1) what the goals of the terrorists are and 2) what are their methods for achieving them. Sometimes "terrorism" (as Gawd calls it) really is terrorism, not freedom fighting.
If I recall correctly, in V for Vendetta, V didn't plant bombs on crowded buses or otherwise indiscriminantly kill civilians.
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