Man jailed for dead girl 'trolling' insults on FB,Youtube

[MrJonno]

The UK, unfortunately, is no longer a civilized society, it's a society of moral cowards that has surrendered it's liberty to the thugs and thievesand no longer deserves any sympathy when its people are victimized, injured or killed by their masters...the armed criminals of their society.

The no longer civilised society you refer to has a homicide rate of 1.28 per 100,000. The homicide rate of an equally uncivilised society I live in, Australia, is 1.3 per 100,000. You are right to be proud to live in the civilised USA where the homicide rate has dropped (yes, it has dropped) to 5.0 per 100,000. I feel so ashamed of our moral cowardice.

I would say the very definition of a civilized country is one where people don't need to carry around deadly force, in fact if people feel the need to its probably closer to failed state

[Rum]

The UK, unfortunately, is no longer a civilized society, it's a society of moral cowards that has surrendered it's liberty to the thugs and thievesand no longer deserves any sympathy when its people are victimized, injured or killed by their masters...the armed criminals of their society.

The no longer civilised society you refer to has a homicide rate of 1.28 per 100,000. The homicide rate of an equally uncivilised society I live in, Australia, is 1.3 per 100,000. You are right to be proud to live in the civilised USA where the homicide rate has dropped (yes, it has dropped) to 5.0 per 100,000. I feel so ashamed of our moral cowardice.

I would say the very definition of a civilized country is one where people don't need to carry around deadly force, in fact if people feel the need to its probably closer to failed state

I would add that it is also a society which feels duty bound to help and assist its most vulnerable members, not let them fend for themselves or rely on random tax deductible charity.

[Clinton Huxley]

The UK, unfortunately, is no longer a civilized society, it's a society of moral cowards that has surrendered it's liberty to the thugs and thievesand no longer deserves any sympathy when its people are victimized, injured or killed by their masters...the armed criminals of their society.

The no longer civilised society you refer to has a homicide rate of 1.28 per 100,000. The homicide rate of an equally uncivilised society I live in, Australia, is 1.3 per 100,000. You are right to be proud to live in the civilised USA where the homicide rate has dropped (yes, it has dropped) to 5.0 per 100,000. I feel so ashamed of our moral cowardice.

I would say the very definition of a civilized country is one where people don't need to carry around deadly force, in fact if people feel the need to its probably closer to failed state

I would add that it is also a society which feels duty bound to help and assist its most vulnerable members, not let them fend for themselves or rely on random tax deductible charity.

Precisely. Take no notice of Ted Nugent.

[Hermit]

The UK, unfortunately, is no longer a civilized society, it's a society of moral cowards that has surrendered it's liberty to the thugs and thievesand no longer deserves any sympathy when its people are victimized, injured or killed by their masters...the armed criminals of their society.

The no longer civilised society you refer to has a homicide rate of 1.28 per 100,000. The homicide rate of an equally uncivilised society I live in, Australia, is 1.3 per 100,000. You are right to be proud to live in the civilised USA where the homicide rate has dropped (yes, it has dropped) to 5.0 per 100,000. I feel so ashamed of our moral cowardice.

I would say the very definition of a civilized country is one where people don't need to carry around deadly force, in fact if people feel the need to its probably closer to failed state

For the time being I am content to merely point out the threadbareness of Seth's post. He has provided no data at all to back any of it up, and what data are available seem to fly in the face of the crap he is spouting. As far as the hyperbole is concerned, it is all hat and no cattle. It's not the first time either. A few months ago he asked me for figures on crime. I provided them. His reply, and I quote it in full, went like this:

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I would rather live next to a child rapist than live next to someone who owned a firearm

I feel the same way about people who own Macs. It's a single criteria for evaluating another person that can be handled viscerally, no thinking required. Just say, "You own a Mac? You're an evil person!". Easy peasy.

[Hermit]

I would rather live next to a child rapist than live next to someone who owned a firearm

I feel the same way about people who own Macs. It's a single criteria for evaluating another person that can be handled viscerally, no thinking required. Just say, "You own a Mac? You're an evil person!". Easy peasy.

I would rather live next to a child raping gun owner than live next to MrJonno. If someone can get criteria that spectacularly wrong, there is no telling what disastrous antics he may get up to.

[MrJonno]

I would rather live next to a child rapist than live next to someone who owned a firearm

I feel the same way about people who own Macs. It's a single criteria for evaluating another person that can be handled viscerally, no thinking required. Just say, "You own a Mac? You're an evil person!". Easy peasy.

If owning a Mac got you 5 years in jail I wouldnt want to be around Mac users either

[MrJonno]

I would rather live next to a child rapist than live next to someone who owned a firearm

I feel the same way about people who own Macs. It's a single criteria for evaluating another person that can be handled viscerally, no thinking required. Just say, "You own a Mac? You're an evil person!". Easy peasy.

I would rather live next to a child raping gun owner than live next to MrJonno. If someone can get criteria that spectacularly wrong, there is no telling what disastrous antics he may get up to.

Which is irrelevant as I wouldnt have a gun to do any disastrous antics

[Pappa]

I would rather live next to a child rapist than live next to someone who owned a firearm

I feel the same way about people who own Macs. It's a single criteria for evaluating another person that can be handled viscerally, no thinking required. Just say, "You own a Mac? You're an evil person!". Easy peasy.

If owning a Mac got you 5 years in jail I wouldnt want to be around Mac users either

By that, do you mean that you won't associate with people who break the law, no matter what the law is?

[MrJonno]

It means that anyone who is prepared to risk possessing something that would get them 5 years in jail is likely to be dangerous themselves through obviously there is less damage they can do with a Mac than gun.

If you own a handgun in the UK you are almost certainly some sort of gang member.

When only criminals have handguns the police know exactly who to shoot

[Thinking Aloud]

It means that anyone who is prepared to risk possessing something that would get them 5 years in jail is likely to be dangerous themselves through obviously there is less damage they can do with a Mac than gun.

If you own a handgun in the UK you are almost certainly some sort of gang member.

When only criminals have handguns the police know exactly who to shoot

Probably worth adding "illegally" to "possessing" and "owning" in the above. (No, I don't have a gun.)

[MrJonno]

It means that anyone who is prepared to risk possessing something that would get them 5 years in jail is likely to be dangerous themselves through obviously there is less damage they can do with a Mac than gun.

If you own a handgun in the UK you are almost certainly some sort of gang member.

When only criminals have handguns the police know exactly who to shoot

Probably worth adding "illegally" to "possessing" and "owning" in the above. (No, I don't have a gun.)

Well a % of police are allowed to possess but they don't own it, neither does the military then again technically criminals couldnt own one either (as personal property only exists when the society/law recognises it)

[Pappa]

I assumed you meant all firearms, not just handguns. Your post was more than a little confusing because of that.

[MrJonno]

I assumed you meant all firearms, not just handguns. Your post was more than a little confusing because of that.

Well shotguns are legal for farmers and while I wouldnt make any assumptions about them it would be another reason among many to avoid the countryside

[Pappa]

I assumed you meant all firearms, not just handguns. Your post was more than a little confusing because of that.

Well shotguns are legal for farmers and while I wouldnt make any assumptions about them it would be another reason among many to avoid the countryside

Anyone can apply for a licence to use and own a rifle too.