I think the odds are worse than 50-50!Gonzo wrote:This is why I think DP is going to be the first town lynch. Look at this bandwagon. Irre who trolley tracks, Shizz who no shows, and Linus who says he voting for DP because there is a 50/50 chance he could be scum. Isn't 50% the definition of waffling?
Discworld Game Thread
Moderator: Mafia Mods
Re: Discworld Day 1
- Magicziggy
- Posts: 4847
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am
- Contact:
Re: Discworld Day 1
Interesting. He's made it tough for himself then because he's already quoting percentages. Doesn't really hold water if he's done it both ways. Let me go back and look at what he actually said.Gonzo wrote:He was an efficient scum player in Reservoir Dogs Mafia and there is substantial proof that he can play well for both sides. He resorts to mathematical arguments often which he uses either to help or mislead.Magicziggy wrote:I don't think I've seen Linus play scum. He seems a pretty bold town player. Doesn't shirk at playing his own game. I think that would stand him in good stead as scum.
Re: Discworld Day 1
I'm gonna crash soon. I think everyone needs to ask themselves if DP was wrong to challenge irre for using the town win condition as a way to flashlight other players whether she is town/scum and if Zigmen provided scum with the town's win condition or not. Also why should DP be lynched when the bandwagoners who formed a lynch vote each have given such weak reasoning to support their vote.
It's Day One it's likely we are going to hit by scum if our main bandwagon is one based on so little real scum hunting and instead on trolley tracking by irre, a driveby vote by shizz, and a 50/50 chance argument by Linus. DP should not be lynched.
It's Day One it's likely we are going to hit by scum if our main bandwagon is one based on so little real scum hunting and instead on trolley tracking by irre, a driveby vote by shizz, and a 50/50 chance argument by Linus. DP should not be lynched.
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
Re: Discworld Day 1
I did not give a 50/50 chance argument. But if I had, that would be a quite strong reason to vote for DP because the baseline probability of being scum is substantially less than 50%.Gonzo wrote:[...] and a 50/50 chance argument by Linus.
- Magicziggy
- Posts: 4847
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am
- Contact:
Re: Discworld Day 1
Ok, in other words Linus has a probable town list, a possible scum list and a don;t know list. Nothing wrong with that. It's not really using maths, just a way of conveying the same meaning as the rest of us.Linus wrote: I don't have anyone as being >50% probable to be scum. At this time I mainly have list of people I think are more townish than the rest, and I have no really strong reason for picking DP specifically from the rest. He's about on par with Barnett (new guy), ksen (indicated low day 1 participation in sign up), and Shizzle (minimal participation) in that none of them have posted anything that makes me want to adjust up their probability of being town.
Linus, where is Athene on your list?
- Magicziggy
- Posts: 4847
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am
- Contact:
Re: Discworld Day 1
Fixing up my earlier hashed votes
@@unvote UT@@
##vote UT##
Not seeing the Linus thing, but am put on notice that he'll blind me with mathematics.
@@unvote UT@@
##vote UT##
Not seeing the Linus thing, but am put on notice that he'll blind me with mathematics.

Re: Discworld Day 1
Oh, I see I missed the '>' sign.Linus wrote:I did not give a 50/50 chance argument. But if I had, that would be a quite strong reason to vote for DP because the baseline probability of being scum is substantially less than 50%.Gonzo wrote:[...] and a 50/50 chance argument by Linus.
Still you said he's onpar with Barnett, ksen, and shizz. That makes me think you are willing to lynch anyone you can and not really concerned about scumhunting.
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
Re: Discworld Day 1
has UT even posted!?
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
Re: Discworld Day 1
What little she posted "clicked" for me in gib's terminology and she said in the sign up she wouldn't be posting as normal, so I have her in the upper half of my town-to-scum list.Magicziggy wrote:Linus, where is Athene on your list?
Re: Discworld Day 1
Gonzo wrote:has UT even posted!?
scratch that, way more than I thought http://rationalia.com/forum/search.php? ... 1&sr=posts.
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
Re: Discworld Day 1
Is that a belated revenge vote, MZ?
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
Re: Discworld Day 1
alright I'm cashed. Sayonara for now.
Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.
Re: Discworld Day 1
Misreading "I don't have anyone as being >50% probable to be scum." as "I don't have anyone as being 50% probable to be scum." is not enough to get to your interpretation, you must have suffered additional lapses of attention/reasoning.Gonzo wrote:Oh, I see I missed the '>' sign.Linus wrote:I did not give a 50/50 chance argument. But if I had, that would be a quite strong reason to vote for DP because the baseline probability of being scum is substantially less than 50%.Gonzo wrote:[...] and a 50/50 chance argument by Linus.
Still you said he's onpar with Barnett, ksen, and shizz. That makes me think you are willing to lynch anyone you can and not really concerned about scumhunting.
How do you think DP compares with Barnett and ksen?
- Magicziggy
- Posts: 4847
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am
- Contact:
Re: Discworld Day 1
If that's how you want to see it. Not bothered how you see it actually. I'm only concerned with having my vote a scum player.Gonzo wrote:Is that a belated revenge vote, MZ?
It wouldn't be the first time UT has been scum and voted for a town player who is looking lynchable.
I've just re-read the irre win condition stuff and it doesn't really condemn DP as much as I thought.
- Magicziggy
- Posts: 4847
- Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:56 am
- Contact:
Re: Discworld Day 1
Actually what I can gather from Irre revealing the gist of the win condition, is that Irre has a version of the town win condition. That's about it.
She went out on a limb last game about the mass claim. This time she's done it about the win condition. I still think she's town but I'm guessing she'd be prepared to pull a stunt like this as scum. The symmetry is interesting though with DP going after her first.
@@vote irre@@
She went out on a limb last game about the mass claim. This time she's done it about the win condition. I still think she's town but I'm guessing she'd be prepared to pull a stunt like this as scum. The symmetry is interesting though with DP going after her first.
@@vote irre@@
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests