Old West Mafia game thread

[Zigmen]

I have as cleared the four on ksens bw. Feck, Irre, rc and the departed gib.
I have no reason to think gonzo is cleared.
I have UT as town. I have you as town.

My suspect list consists of Mantis, DP and gonzo. I really don;t think Jerome is scum, but he's absolutely useless to town.

So, with the exception of Jerome and yourself, we have the exact same list of who is probably cleared.

You might want to read back over the discussion about Jerome again and possibly rethink your position bearing one question is mind. If Jerome was Scum, why didn't Ksen for for me to save him? And, if you think Scum was bussing, and you think Jerome was Scum, why Didn't Ksen vote for Jerome?

My suspect list is identical to yours, except you are on my list as well. I also still have Jerome on that list, but near the bottom.

Now look at the votes we've seen today.

We really need to pull this together if we plan to win.

I'll tentatively unvote you as a gesture of good faith because I think you're keeping your calm under pressure, but pressing a few scummy issues.

##unvote##

Here's our common ground:

6. Mantisdreamz
9. dp

I'd lean toward DP from this list. Thoughts?

I just realized I kept saying Jerome when i meant Gonzo.

I think that may have happened in a few posts.

Great, now I have a new duo to add to my Feck/Ksen random identification problem.

[Zigmen]

You don't think Jerome could be a jester? It's a weird vote with no justification.

No, it's a Jerome vote, and I think you're way overreacting to it.

Also, I wasn't asking you.

lol you made a post just like this in Eve Mafia as scum. Your scum game seems to be indistinguishable from your current gameplay.

Yes, my Scum game is to play pro-town. I do it whether I'm Scum or Town. IOW, you shouldn't be able to distinguish the two.

It also gets me killed as Town quite often as well.

[Zigmen]

ETA, you could just answer my question about MZ . . .

[Gonzo]

And to be fair, my scum list isn't a list of players who look scummy, it's a list of players who aren't probably cleared by yesterday's actions.

Then you aren't really scumhunting, are you? You're just picking out town that can't be lynched.

[Gonzo]

What the hell is 'wall of lucy'?

[Zigmen]

And to be fair, my scum list isn't a list of players who look scummy, it's a list of players who aren't probably cleared by yesterday's actions.

Then you aren't really scumhunting, are you? You're just picking out town that can't be lynched.

Keep reading the thread. Sorry If i got off to a slow start.

[Zigmen]

What the hell is 'wall of lucy'?

It essentially means when Scum plays dumb to cover their asses when they fail to see the patently obvious.

[Gonzo]

Sigh . . .

Ok, I'll start here

LOL zigmen, what a shame I can only vote one person a day. That is a scum trifecta in your post. How on earth is Jerome somewhat cleared as a result of your suspicion of MZ?

Think. If I'm most confident that player x is scummy, I'm least likely to trust their vote on a day where we are least likely to see a bus.

No?

Why are you pushing so hard for a mass claim?

I said "Oh, anyone wanna discuss a mass claim?" How is this "pushing so hard for a mass claim?" I merely asked for discussion. The difference is not subtle and I do not appreciate being painted with your wide brush.

Why do you so conveniently have mantis in your list, when she's hardly been around this game?

You really need to read the thread. Did you miss where I said this: "And to be fair, my scum list isn't a list of players who look scummy, it's a list of players who aren't probably cleared by yesterday's actions."

Mantis was not "probably cleared by yesterday's actions," and is therefore on my list.

Do you really think DP as scum would flip flop around voting me yesterday?

Again, he certainly isn't "probably cleared by yesterday's actions."

I think you and Jerome are the remaining scum this game.

Then why didn't scum just bus/save one of us yesterday when the vote was tied 3/3?

I think you told Jerome to throw a vote at me, in the hope that people would think he was the seer and had viewed me (I of course am not going to buy this as I know I'm town), but most importantly he wanted the seer to out. You on the other hand want ALL the specials to out.

First, Jerome would never listen to anything anyone told him or his game would look very different when he was Town/Scum.

Second, It's frustrating to watch you threaten me when I ask for a discussion; a discussion like we had yesterday that caused many players to post their thoughts on a variety of topics. Scum doesn't want discussion, they want a vacuum. I'm convinced you are very likely to be Town, so it is doubly frustrating that you are so bent on killing discussion, and even threateneing the player who is asking for discussion.

Can you understand why it is almost painful to be Town with you? Cuz it is, sometimes.

Seer: hold your nerve.

Obviously. If after a discussion of mass-claiming (which would work), we decided to all out our roles, then and only then should the fucking Seer claim. Not just because you told them not to. Sheesh.

My behaviour yesterday shows my town creds. Plus, I suspect you really did view me.

Yup, you're about as cleared as anyone else there is on my cleared list.

Super self-defense flail.

[Zigmen]

Gonzo, there's no way I'm Scum unless the Scum team are complete retards. Safe your breath FoSing me, cuz it just makes you look like you're not remotely paying attention.

[Gonzo]

lol

[r.c]

i'm not buying jerom'e explanation, and also his curse. I'm up for lynching him today.

##vote jerome##

[Gonzo]

Seriously fuck the retarded drunken gameplay, jerome. You are nothing but a distraction now. However, I find it very hard to believe he would play that way if he had team mates.

[Gonzo]

irre [1] jerome
jerome [3] irre, magicziggy, r.c.
zigmen [1] mantisdreams
mantis [1] zigmen

Not voting - Gonzo, dp, Uselesstwit, Feck

[Feck]

Curious UT floating the idea that I could have bus'd Ksen I would have tried a little harder not to say earlier !

I STILL can't see scum Zigmen playing like this

I've got no recollection of scum Jerome's game but I've seen him act the clown as town (and talk sense eventually ! )

[Zigmen]

Seriously fuck the retarded drunken gameplay, jerome. You are nothing but a distraction now. However, I find it very hard to believe he would play that way if he had team mates.

Jerome doesn't listen to his team mates when he's Scum, as I've already said.

But, he is uncleared by yesterday's actions, so not a bad choice.

I still like Mantis better. I'd even go DP.