Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Rum » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:03 pm

Feck wrote:
Robert_S wrote:Neither Bachmann, nor Palin would stand a chance in a general election.
Palin and Bachmann :funny:
..for President and Vice President!

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Post by Feck » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:15 pm

Rum wrote:
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Robert_S wrote:Neither Bachmann, nor Palin would stand a chance in a general election.
Palin and Bachmann :funny:
..for President and Vice President!

:shock:
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Post by Tero » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:21 pm

I think the teapartiers will have their fun, with Bachman or Mr Texas, but Mitt R. is going to have to decide what to do with them when he gets the nomination. The closest they got to a man in the white house, or will, is the founder of antigovernment in modern times, Reagan.

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Post by Rum » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:27 pm

Tero wrote:I think the teapartiers will have their fun, with Bachman or Mr Texas, but Mitt R. is going to have to decide what to do with them when he gets the nomination. The closest they got to a man in the white house, or will, is the founder of antigovernment in modern times, Reagan.
Reagan , often credited with being the forbear of the Tea partry, who paradoxically increased government expenditure by leaps and bounds.

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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Ian » Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:03 pm

A little post I've made on this subject a few months ago:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... on#p848523

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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by apophenia » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:55 pm

Ian wrote:A little post I've made on this subject a few months ago:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... on#p848523
Reminds me, I was for Nixon at the time. After watching Wallace get shot, I thought he was our only hope for ending the war.

Politics is funny, it can make a single issue utterly ruin a candidate, e.g. Dukkakis and Willie Horton. (Or save one.)

I actually welcome a Bachmann candidacy -- and for more than comedic value, though there is that -- I can't imagine another Republican candidate who would be as ineffectual in office if elected. And then there's the female factor....

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Post by hadespussercats » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:15 pm

I think the influence of the Iowa Straw Poll is over-rated.

But Bachman is definitely the cray-cray. I can't figure out how these people get so popular.
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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Robert_S » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:32 pm

hadespussercats wrote:I think the influence of the Iowa Straw Poll is over-rated.

But Bachman is definitely the cray-cray. I can't figure out how these people get so popular.
they appeal to the vacuous self-satisfaction that seems so rampant in our culture.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by hadespussercats » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:39 pm

Robert_S wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I think the influence of the Iowa Straw Poll is over-rated.

But Bachman is definitely the cray-cray. I can't figure out how these people get so popular.
they appeal to the vacuous self-satisfaction that seems so rampant in our culture.
Is it a sort of vicarious thrill, you think? Like, "Hey, s/he isn't that different from me-- which means I could be president, if I really wanted it..."
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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Robert_S » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:52 pm

hadespussercats wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I think the influence of the Iowa Straw Poll is over-rated.

But Bachman is definitely the cray-cray. I can't figure out how these people get so popular.
they appeal to the vacuous self-satisfaction that seems so rampant in our culture.
Is it a sort of vicarious thrill, you think? Like, "Hey, s/he isn't that different from me-- which means I could be president, if I really wanted it..."
Never stopping to think "Fuck! I'm not really qualified to deal with that job at all!"
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by hadespussercats » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:35 pm

Robert_S wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:I think the influence of the Iowa Straw Poll is over-rated.

But Bachman is definitely the cray-cray. I can't figure out how these people get so popular.
they appeal to the vacuous self-satisfaction that seems so rampant in our culture.
Is it a sort of vicarious thrill, you think? Like, "Hey, s/he isn't that different from me-- which means I could be president, if I really wanted it..."
Never stopping to think "Fuck! I'm not really qualified to deal with that job at all!"
Yes!

I'd love to be absolutely outclassed in every respect by a presidential candidate-- someone smarter, more insightful, more educated on a wider variety of subjects, funnier, better-looking, more athletic, you name it.

Wouldn't it be great to be able to vote for a real hero? Why wouldn't you want your leader to be better than you?
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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Ian » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:39 pm

hadespussercats wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
hadespussercats wrote: Is it a sort of vicarious thrill, you think? Like, "Hey, s/he isn't that different from me-- which means I could be president, if I really wanted it..."
Never stopping to think "Fuck! I'm not really qualified to deal with that job at all!"
Yes!

I'd love to be absolutely outclassed in every respect by a presidential candidate-- someone smarter, more insightful, more educated on a wider variety of subjects, funnier, better-looking, more athletic, you name it.

Wouldn't it be great to be able to vote for a real hero? Why wouldn't you want your leader to be better than you?
That would go against the "folksy" principle. We'd love it, but we're not folksy. Voters in GOP primaries, especially places like Iowa, are all about the plain-spoken candidates who can hang out at the state fair.

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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Feck » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:40 pm

Think! the first US woman President ... the women of America should stand together and vote Palin Bachman ! :leave:
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Re: Stupid takes a step towards the White House.

Post by Ian » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:42 pm

Feck wrote:Think! the first US woman President ... the women of America should stand together and vote Palin Bachman ! :leave:
While I abhor pretty much everything those two stand for, I gotta admit that the comedic value of a Palin or Bachmann presidency would be through the roof. Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert could become billionaires.

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Post by Warren Dew » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:09 pm

hadespussercats wrote:Wouldn't it be great to be able to vote for a real hero? Why wouldn't you want your leader to be better than you?
I have to say, I've never thought of the president as my leader, except when I was in the military.

I think of voting as more like selecting an employee.

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