Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?
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Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?
The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
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No they are all immoral in different ways some legal some not
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Human nature is always a balance between personal desire and social responsibility. Justification of a human act is simply the application of a moral code - an artificial, human construct that is itself a part of human nature.
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Re: Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?
There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there. 

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I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there.
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Just saying. You know?Rum wrote:I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there.

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No, I don't.Crumple wrote:Just saying. You know?Rum wrote:I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there.
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Gotcha.Rum wrote:No, I don't.Crumple wrote:Just saying. You know?Rum wrote:I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there.

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It doesn't justify it. Two wrongs don't make a right. But it is part of an explanation as to why it happened.Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
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All examples of opportunistically grabbing what you don't really need and certainly didn't earn because everyone else is doing it too and if you don't then someone else will.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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So the bankers came to your house, smashed your windows, and took your money to deposit in their bank? Funny, I haven't heard about that happening to anyone else.Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
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I've noticed those suits - they all look suspiciously wealthy. That ain't honest money their spending.Warren Dew wrote:So the bankers came to your house, smashed your windows, and took your money to deposit in their bank? Funny, I haven't heard about that happening to anyone else.Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?

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There are no morals.
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Re: Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?
As I understand it, due to the rate of inflation increasing well above the interest rates of any savings account I can get my money into, I'm losing about a £200 per year to the banks. And anyone who has more money saved (but not those who have enough to get good interest rates) will be losing more.Warren Dew wrote:So the bankers came to your house, smashed your windows, and took your money to deposit in their bank? Funny, I haven't heard about that happening to anyone else.Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
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“Su Wong marries Lee Wong. The next year, the Wongs have a new baby. The nurse brings out a lovely, healthy, bouncy, but definitely a Caucasian, WHITE baby boy. ‘Congratulations,’ says the nurse to the new parents ... ‘Well Mr. Wong, what will you and Mrs. Wong name the baby?’ The puzzled father looks at his new baby boy and says, ‘Well, two Wong's don't make a white, so I think we will name him Sum Ting Wong”Psychoserenity wrote:It doesn't justify it. Two wrongs don't make a right. But it is part of an explanation as to why it happened.Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
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