Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?

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Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?

Post by Rum » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:24 pm

The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?

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Post by MrJonno » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:27 pm

No they are all immoral in different ways some legal some not
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:30 pm

Human nature is always a balance between personal desire and social responsibility. Justification of a human act is simply the application of a moral code - an artificial, human construct that is itself a part of human nature.

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Re: Are bankers, politicians and rioters morally equivalent?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:34 pm

There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there. :tup:
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Post by Rum » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:36 pm

Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there. :tup:
I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:37 pm

Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there. :tup:
I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.
Just saying. You know? :read:
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Post by Rum » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:38 pm

Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there. :tup:
I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.
Just saying. You know? :read:
No, I don't.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:44 pm

Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:There is no right or wrong. So long as you keep the 11th commandment you go get on with it Rum - live by your own rules. Sounds good to me. Don't sit on the fence or choose a side when the fence isn't even there. :tup:
I like to start threads to do my bit to keep the forum humming - something like 1500 so far in fact. Nothing in this OP indicates my views on this matter.
Just saying. You know? :read:
No, I don't.
Gotcha. :tup:
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:49 pm

Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
It doesn't justify it. Two wrongs don't make a right. But it is part of an explanation as to why it happened.
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Post by Robert_S » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:22 pm

All examples of opportunistically grabbing what you don't really need and certainly didn't earn because everyone else is doing it too and if you don't then someone else will.
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Post by Warren Dew » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:35 pm

Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
So the bankers came to your house, smashed your windows, and took your money to deposit in their bank? Funny, I haven't heard about that happening to anyone else.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:40 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
So the bankers came to your house, smashed your windows, and took your money to deposit in their bank? Funny, I haven't heard about that happening to anyone else.
I've noticed those suits - they all look suspiciously wealthy. That ain't honest money their spending. :smoke:
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Post by Santa_Claus » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:42 pm

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Post by PsychoSerenity » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:07 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
So the bankers came to your house, smashed your windows, and took your money to deposit in their bank? Funny, I haven't heard about that happening to anyone else.
As I understand it, due to the rate of inflation increasing well above the interest rates of any savings account I can get my money into, I'm losing about a £200 per year to the banks. And anyone who has more money saved (but not those who have enough to get good interest rates) will be losing more.
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Post by apophenia » Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:48 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
Rum wrote:The bankers gambled our money away. Here politicians cheated big time on their expenses. Everyone it seems is on the take if they can be or so many people believe. Does that justify rioting?
It doesn't justify it. Two wrongs don't make a right. But it is part of an explanation as to why it happened.
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