E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Cormac » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:37 pm

Tyrannical wrote:You only have three basic choices.

1: Let them starve
2: Force them to work
3: Keep giving them free money and benefits
False choice.

For example - you could reduce the free money given to anyone convicted of criminal involvement in the recent riots and related crimes.
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:46 pm

Cormac wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:You only have three basic choices.

1: Let them starve
2: Force them to work
3: Keep giving them free money and benefits
False choice.

For example - you could reduce the free money given to anyone convicted of criminal involvement in the recent riots and related crimes.
And, if that is not enough for basic food, clothing, and rent? What if that just makes them more unhappy and prone to riot? Could require some tough decisions.
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Ironclad » Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:55 pm

:mob: Open the soup kitchens and make them attend the quarries to break rocks! :mob:
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Cunt » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:32 pm

I think if you were to force the government welfare cases to work, you could accomplish more than forcing the rioters to work. How many elected officials have been caught stealing from their boss, only to find excuses and keep on going?

I suggest an e-petition to criminalize white collar crime to the extent that this rioting and looting has been.
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Post by Ironclad » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:43 pm

:roflol:
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Post by Ironclad » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:44 pm

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Post by Rum » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:46 pm

Ironclad wrote::roflol:
Took me ages to see that. Funnyyyy!

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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Mysturji » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:48 pm

Tyrannical wrote:You only have three basic choices.

1: Let them starve
2: Force them to work
3: Lock them up
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Let's be democratic about it:
Give them the choice.
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Post by Mysturji » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:50 pm

Direct link (Ithink) to the actual signature page, as navigating is virtually impossible due to high server load.
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.g ... nature/new
I still haven't got there yet, though. :ddpan:
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by surreptitious57 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:10 pm

Someone who I occasionally spare with keeps coming up with this suggestion that criminals should
be deported to their country of origin or their parents or grandparents. If they happen to be English
then they should be sent indefinitely to a certain Scottish island. This is classic nimbyism and highly
impractical. I did suggest how would he feel if all of them were sent to Manchester but I do not think
that was given much thought. Yet he is absolutely serious in this particular belief and sees nothing in
it that is wrong at all. Interestingly one of those charged yesterday was teacher. Nothing surprises me
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Pensioner » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:14 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Cormac wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:You only have three basic choices.

1: Let them starve
2: Force them to work
3: Keep giving them free money and benefits
False choice.

For example - you could reduce the free money given to anyone convicted of criminal involvement in the recent riots and related crimes.
And, if that is not enough for basic food, clothing, and rent? What if that just makes them more unhappy and prone to riot? Could require some tough decisions.
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:14 pm

Mysturji wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14474429
Links to HMGov website, but...
Sorry if you're experiencing problems accessing e-petitons. There is currently a much higher level of demand than we expected.
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That'll probably be due to my Sister signing it 20,000 times over...
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Post by Cunt » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:22 pm

I am not surprised that a teacher was caught. Those without criminal tendencies are more likely to make the kind of mistakes that would get a person caught.
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Mysturji » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:23 pm

Number of signatures:
99,541
It was just over 94,000 whenI started this thread. :hehe:
Still haven't got through. :bored:
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Re: E-petition to axe rioters' benefits

Post by Ironclad » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:31 pm

Cunt wrote:I am not surprised that a teacher was caught. Those without criminal tendencies are more likely to make the kind of mistakes that would get a person caught.
A 2nd year law student too, who may as well pray for a miracle or become a taxi driver now, career over before it began.
Teh power of the mob, eh.
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