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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:31 am

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Post by Rum » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:30 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:I am not sure what to make of the riots over there in England. The world seems to be going crazy. I hope such nonsense doesn't begin over here in the US. Energies are better served going to work and getting shit done, rather than rioting.

I realize this all began with some racial issue of which I am only vaguely familiar, but it seems to have spiraled into some Quadraphenia-like teen angst "eat the rich" rampage. It all just seems so pathetic and sad from over here. I can't even joke about it.
It was, as the Daily Telegraph characterised it, the 'Underclass Lashing Out'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-out.html

It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:

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Re: Tottenham Riots

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Coito ergo sum wrote:I am not sure what to make of the riots over there in England. The world seems to be going crazy. I hope such nonsense doesn't begin over here in the US. Energies are better served going to work and getting shit done, rather than rioting.

I realize this all began with some racial issue of which I am only vaguely familiar, but it seems to have spiraled into some Quadraphenia-like teen angst "eat the rich" rampage. It all just seems so pathetic and sad from over here. I can't even joke about it.
It was, as the Daily Telegraph characterised it, the 'Underclass Lashing Out'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-out.html

It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:
Typical middle-class response to bring up the Bible and I saw the Bishop of Manchester on the box earlier. Yeah. Bring out the village priest something's going wrong in the village. Speaking with my own experience of the underclass is do not under-estimate how quickly nihilistic looting will be hijacked by vested interests with a political agenda on the extremes left&right. Do not underestimate how quickly a uneducated chav with 'smart-genes' will latch onto the political game and before you know it be sitting in No.10.....with Camerons head in a box on the box. Stereotypes keep you feeling safe, eh? and your a fool if you think that's a logical position in this ongoing power struggle for the throne. :coffee:
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Coito ergo sum wrote:I am not sure what to make of the riots over there in England. The world seems to be going crazy. I hope such nonsense doesn't begin over here in the US. Energies are better served going to work and getting shit done, rather than rioting.

I realize this all began with some racial issue of which I am only vaguely familiar, but it seems to have spiraled into some Quadraphenia-like teen angst "eat the rich" rampage. It all just seems so pathetic and sad from over here. I can't even joke about it.
It was, as the Daily Telegraph characterised it, the 'Underclass Lashing Out'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-out.html

It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:
Typical middle-class response to bring up the Bible and I saw the Bishop of Manchester on the box earlier. Yeah. Bring out the village priest something's going wrong in the village. Speaking with my own experience of the underclass is do not under-estimate how quickly nihilistic looting will be hijacked by vested interests with a political agenda on the extremes left&right. Do not underestimate how quickly a uneducated chav with 'smart-genes' will latch onto the political game and before you know it be sitting in No.10.....with Camerons head in a box on the box. Stereotypes keep you feeling safe, eh? and your a fool if you think that's a logical position in this ongoing power struggle for the throne. :coffee:
Sometimes your level of gibberish is truly impressive! :tup:

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Re: Tottenham Riots

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Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I am not sure what to make of the riots over there in England. The world seems to be going crazy. I hope such nonsense doesn't begin over here in the US. Energies are better served going to work and getting shit done, rather than rioting.

I realize this all began with some racial issue of which I am only vaguely familiar, but it seems to have spiraled into some Quadraphenia-like teen angst "eat the rich" rampage. It all just seems so pathetic and sad from over here. I can't even joke about it.
It was, as the Daily Telegraph characterised it, the 'Underclass Lashing Out'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-out.html

It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:
Typical middle-class response to bring up the Bible and I saw the Bishop of Manchester on the box earlier. Yeah. Bring out the village priest something's going wrong in the village. Speaking with my own experience of the underclass is do not under-estimate how quickly nihilistic looting will be hijacked by vested interests with a political agenda on the extremes left&right. Do not underestimate how quickly a uneducated chav with 'smart-genes' will latch onto the political game and before you know it be sitting in No.10.....with Camerons head in a box on the box. Stereotypes keep you feeling safe, eh? and your a fool if you think that's a logical position in this ongoing power struggle for the throne. :coffee:
Sometimes your level of gibberish is truly impressive! :tup:
It is. I'm interested in implanting the seeds - not the fully formed plants. I'll leave that to the experts such as yourself. :tup:
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Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I am not sure what to make of the riots over there in England. The world seems to be going crazy. I hope such nonsense doesn't begin over here in the US. Energies are better served going to work and getting shit done, rather than rioting.

I realize this all began with some racial issue of which I am only vaguely familiar, but it seems to have spiraled into some Quadraphenia-like teen angst "eat the rich" rampage. It all just seems so pathetic and sad from over here. I can't even joke about it.
It was, as the Daily Telegraph characterised it, the 'Underclass Lashing Out'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-out.html

It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:
Typical middle-class response to bring up the Bible and I saw the Bishop of Manchester on the box earlier. Yeah. Bring out the village priest something's going wrong in the village. Speaking with my own experience of the underclass is do not under-estimate how quickly nihilistic looting will be hijacked by vested interests with a political agenda on the extremes left&right. Do not underestimate how quickly a uneducated chav with 'smart-genes' will latch onto the political game and before you know it be sitting in No.10.....with Camerons head in a box on the box. Stereotypes keep you feeling safe, eh? and your a fool if you think that's a logical position in this ongoing power struggle for the throne. :coffee:
Sometimes your level of gibberish is truly impressive! :tup:
It is. I'm interested in implanting the seeds - not the fully formed plants. I'll leave that to the experts such as yourself. :tup:
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Post by Cormac » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:19 am

Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:I am not sure what to make of the riots over there in England. The world seems to be going crazy. I hope such nonsense doesn't begin over here in the US. Energies are better served going to work and getting shit done, rather than rioting.

I realize this all began with some racial issue of which I am only vaguely familiar, but it seems to have spiraled into some Quadraphenia-like teen angst "eat the rich" rampage. It all just seems so pathetic and sad from over here. I can't even joke about it.
It was, as the Daily Telegraph characterised it, the 'Underclass Lashing Out'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... s-out.html

It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:
Typical middle-class response to bring up the Bible and I saw the Bishop of Manchester on the box earlier. Yeah. Bring out the village priest something's going wrong in the village. Speaking with my own experience of the underclass is do not under-estimate how quickly nihilistic looting will be hijacked by vested interests with a political agenda on the extremes left&right. Do not underestimate how quickly a uneducated chav with 'smart-genes' will latch onto the political game and before you know it be sitting in No.10.....with Camerons head in a box on the box. Stereotypes keep you feeling safe, eh? and your a fool if you think that's a logical position in this ongoing power struggle for the throne. :coffee:
Sometimes your level of gibberish is truly impressive! :tup:
It is. I'm interested in implanting the seeds - not the fully formed plants. I'll leave that to the experts such as yourself. :tup:
Ah, you are a dilettante. I see.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:51 am

I'm a experimentalist mostly however I do enjoy a spot of welcome novelty in society. :hehe:
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Post by kiki5711 » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:11 pm

Ironclad wrote:This has to be amongst the worst of the rioting I've yet seen. Is this where Dev has been these last few hours... :eddy:

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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:31 pm

*No book stores were harmed in the making of this riot. (seriously)

Hell, throwing books at them would probably scare them off. Or, I bet the book store owners could have stood outside offering free books to looters :hehe:
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:40 pm

Rum wrote:It rained last night, plus they had piles of new electronic gadgets to play with, so they stayed indoors it seems. :bored:
It's like the deadness on the day after Xmas...
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:45 pm

Not to mention all the booze, and if they were lucky enough to get to a pharmacy for some good drugs.
But, I do know they are not settling down to read a good book.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:03 pm

I view the idea that the riots are caused by the poverty of the rioters with some skepticism. Relative to most of the world, and most people that have ever lived, the rioters are comfortably well off. They are provided for by a relatively large welfare state, have a all their health needs covered, for free I'm told, and have enough food to be not too far behind the United States in obesity rates. They have greater freedoms and liberties than most people who have ever lived, and they have rights as British citizens that are greater than most people who have ever lived. Moreover, billions of people have lived, and currently live, in far greater poverty, for more grinding underclass, and far fewer rights and privileges, and those other billions of people do not riot and disregard the property and rights of others.

I can't help feeling that something else must be moving the mob. I don't know what it is, though.

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Post by Rum » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:05 pm

Tyrannical wrote:Not to mention all the booze, and if they were lucky enough to get to a pharmacy for some good drugs.
But, I do know they are not settling down to read a good book.
Let's hope there were a few fatal overdoses.. :smoke:

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Post by Warren Dew » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:37 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:I view the idea that the riots are caused by the poverty of the rioters with some skepticism. Relative to most of the world, and most people that have ever lived, the rioters are comfortably well off. They are provided for by a relatively large welfare state, have a all their health needs covered, for free I'm told, and have enough food to be not too far behind the United States in obesity rates. They have greater freedoms and liberties than most people who have ever lived, and they have rights as British citizens that are greater than most people who have ever lived. Moreover, billions of people have lived, and currently live, in far greater poverty, for more grinding underclass, and far fewer rights and privileges, and those other billions of people do not riot and disregard the property and rights of others.
They aren't comparing themselves to "most of the world", they are comparing themselves to others in their country. Those others have iPods and flat screen televisions, they don't. Those others occupy their evenings recovering from their jobs, they don't have jobs. Those others are part of a socioeconomic system that respects property rights; they aren't.

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