Saw this on drudge, thought you Brits don't play American baseball. Why the sudden demand for baseball bats
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Robert_S wrote:I agree with Rum to the extent that opportunistic looting and gratuitous destruction have nothing to do with the politics exceot in a roundabout way.
It's not all that roundabout. For those used to living on government handouts under socialism, the concept of private property becomes blurred and even seen as illegitimate and looting then does come to be seen as "getting their share of tax money". To the extent Rum doesn't see that, I agree with Exi5stentialist that he doesn't understand how socialism actually works.
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Bella Fortuna wrote:I hope Ele's safe in Manchester...
Me too.
Who else here is close to the riots?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
-Mr P
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Warren Dew wrote:
It's not all that roundabout. For those used to living on government handouts under socialism, the concept of private property becomes blurred and even seen as illegitimate and looting then does come to be seen as "getting their share of tax money". To the extent Rum doesn't see that, I agree with Exi5stentialist that he doesn't understand how socialism actually works.
Well yeah but I'd like to know where you think this concept of 'socialism' as you call it has been implemented. 13 years of Labour Government does not a socialist society make. Actually this Labour Party probably couldn't achieve it in 130 years.
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Robert_S wrote:I agree with Rum to the extent that opportunistic looting and gratuitous destruction have nothing to do with the politics exceot in a roundabout way.
It's not all that roundabout. For those used to living on government handouts under socialism, the concept of private property becomes blurred and even seen as illegitimate and looting then does come to be seen as "getting their share of tax money". To the extent Rum doesn't see that, I agree with Exi5stentialist that he doesn't understand how socialism actually works.
Which side said "society does not exist"? Which side has been glorifying greed?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
-Mr P
The Net is best considered analogous to communication with disincarnate intelligences. As any neophyte would tell you. Do not invoke that which you have no facility to banish.
Audley Strange
Bella Fortuna wrote:The Dawktor saw some roaming yoofs on his way home in Birmingham but he's OK.
Glad of that.
All you other Ratz be safe please.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
-Mr P
The Net is best considered analogous to communication with disincarnate intelligences. As any neophyte would tell you. Do not invoke that which you have no facility to banish.
Audley Strange
Warren Dew wrote:
It's not all that roundabout. For those used to living on government handouts under socialism, the concept of private property becomes blurred and even seen as illegitimate and looting then does come to be seen as "getting their share of tax money". To the extent Rum doesn't see that, I agree with Exi5stentialist that he doesn't understand how socialism actually works.
Well yeah but I'd like to know where you think this concept of 'socialism' as you call it has been implemented. 13 years of Labour Government does not a socialist society make. Actually this Labour Party probably couldn't achieve it in 130 years.
Evidently it's been implemented in at least a few neighborhoods in London.
The Red Fox wrote:At worst, the damage of these riots will cost something along the lines of millions of pounds.
White-collar financial crime such as fraud, embezzlement and tax evasion is theft and looting of resources which costs the economy tens of billions of pounds each and every year.
If we're going to impose martial law in London, something which nobody seems to understand the implications of, the army also needs to be deployed in the City of London to stop these white-collar thieves and looters who systematically rob billions from the economy each year for their personal gain. We're all in this together, after all.
In point of fact, it is the City that pays for the lions share of public services.
Also, the Blair-Brown axis kissed the arse of the City right through their terms of office, and THEY followed very silly policies that certainly threw fuel on the fire of the rampant idiocy in the markets.
BUT, the accusation you level against the city is not correct.
FUCKERPUNKERSHIT!
Wanna buy some pegs Dave, I've got some pegs here...
