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Re: Tottenham Riots

Post by tattuchu » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:13 pm

Oh. I thought you didn't have *newtginrich* over there. I thought chavs were your white *newtginrich*. I didn't realize there were real *newtginrich*. I thought blacks acted like regular people over there, all civilized and with cool English accents and everything :(
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Post by Cormac » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:15 pm

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wtf are they rioting about?
They rioting because they don't like justice.
What's wrong with blacks
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Lozzer, this is an example. From this, I would draw the conclusion that you think that black people by very nature are criminal, violent, and subversive.

This may be unfair, but the absence of any indication otherwise leaves me to draw this conclusion. Is it the case that you did intend this meaning?
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Re: Tottenham Riots

Post by The Red Fox » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:10 am

Looks like Enfield, Walthamstow and Brixton are all having their own smaller riots tonight. There is years of disaffection at play here, and something provocative like a police shooting, which is a rare event, is enough to bring people out of the woodwork and give them what they see in their minds to be a legitimate reason to smash up society. Especially in such muddy circumstances where it still isn't clear if the police have covered something up or not. There is decades of rot coming up from the surface here, and life in London is very different from the rest of the country. Many of the rioters are young, disaffected and with no hope of anything resembling a future other than life on the dole. They are also, unlike most kids in the country, stopped and searched without cause on a daily basis by police, fermenting a great deal of mistrust between communities and police. Many of those searched are innocent and this can lead to a sense of victimisation amongst non-gang members who are assumed to be packing heat because of either their dress sense, skin colour or both. There is also the hardship of being poor in one of world's most expensive cities, and living in a place where senseless materialism is far more prevalent and constant than anywhere else in Britain.

None of this excuses looting and rioting, but you have to understand there is far more to this than the shooting of Mark Duggan (which is still as of yet unresolved). That was a catalyst which triggered years of deep-seated resentment against an uncaring society which foists senseless materialism on the poor and the clumsy practices of the authorities who also do nothing to foster positive relations with the communities they police.

Even if it transpires that Duggan is yet another victim of the trigger happy Met, it still won't justify what's happened in London, but people on this forum seem to have no idea how volatile this mix of resentment, disaffection and mistrust can be. It isn't as senseless as it might first appear.
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Post by Seth » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:46 am

Tyrannical wrote:An aspiring rapper and former honor student trying to turn his life around no doubt. Never mind the illegal hand gun.
What? Illegal handgun? That's impossible, the police must be lying because there is no such thing as an illegal handgun in the UK, they BANNED THEM. Therefore no person can have one and every single handgun in the UK has been dutifully turned in and no one would DARE to break the law prohibiting them from possessing a handgun. Therefore it's simply impossible that a criminal obtained one and used it to shoot at police, so something is out of joint.

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Post by Seth » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:48 am

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Tyrannical wrote:Rioters should be shot dead on sight.
Racists should be shot dead on sight.
That would end up with an awful lot of black people being shot dead on sight.
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Post by Seth » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:55 am

The Red Fox wrote: Many of the rioters are young, disaffected and with no hope of anything resembling a future other than life on the dole.
Welcome to the socialist economic end game, when the socialist government can no longer pump out the largess from the public treasury to keep the seething proletarian dole-takers happy because nobody's producing any wealth and everybody's on the dole, and the self-same proletarian dependent-class drones turn on their masters and start to rip them to pieces for failing to keep their unkeepable promises.

You can look for the socialist authorities to become ever-more authoritarian and heavy-handed as they try to quell the riots and unrest. Soon enough the Army will be called out to assist the over-burdened, lll-equipped and untrained police in the art of urban guerrilla warfare by disaffected Marxist dupes. And they will lose, but many will die in the process, as they did under Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Castro. Expect heads on pikes and bodies hanging from London Bridge soon enough.

Welcome to the Brave New World. Too bad you don't have any arms with which to defend your homes and communities. It's going to suck to be you. The fuse is short and the petard is about to blow up under your asses, and it's no more than you deserve.
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Re: Tottenham Riots

Post by FBM » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:58 am

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Cormac wrote:I am surprised by the naked racism in this thread by some fellow Ratz.
Sorry. It was just a joke. Some of my best friends are British.

This was funny, dammit. Laugh, bitches! :lay:
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:20 am

Tyrannical wrote:
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Crumple wrote:Ethnic communities are racialist by nature and the answer is to disperse these ghettoes of poverty and desperation. Unfortutnately the new housing policy will lead to ever more ghettoisation as the poorest(the undsireable ones in the labor market (learning disabled, old, sick or colored) seek the lowest possible rent for housing in each town & city(rather than what is appropriate). :coffee:
As long as there is a class system there will be ghettos.........middle class and rich people as much as they will say until they are blue in the face do not want to live next door to people that are poor people.

Hell ask any real estate agent nice area=no poor people. :coffee:
As long as we tolerate laziness and poor life style choices there will be ghettos. Poor people in Western nations are mostly poor because they are some combination of lazy or stupid. Dropping out of school, abusing drugs, early child bearing, criminal activity, poor work ethic; all voluntary poor life style choices that cause self-inflicted poverty.
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Post by MrJonno » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:15 am

Seth wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:An aspiring rapper and former honor student trying to turn his life around no doubt. Never mind the illegal hand gun.
What? Illegal handgun? That's impossible, the police must be lying because there is no such thing as an illegal handgun in the UK, they BANNED THEM. Therefore no person can have one and every single handgun in the UK has been dutifully turned in and no one would DARE to break the law prohibiting them from possessing a handgun. Therefore it's simply impossible that a criminal obtained one and used it to shoot at police, so something is out of joint.

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If it was an illegal handgun (always an if) then the culprit has been dealt with correctly ie shot dead. Unarmed murders and rapists should where possible be taken in alive , but if they have a gun why take the chance (they signed away any rights the second they decided to carry it)

Riots against the police I can understand but this is just trashing the local neighbourhood and absolutely nothing to do with police brutality (if there is any)
When only criminals carry guns the police know exactly who to shoot!

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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:21 am

Seth wrote:
NineBerry wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:Rioters should be shot dead on sight.
Racists should be shot dead on sight.
That would end up with an awful lot of black people being shot dead on sight.
Honestly, I don't think anyone would be left. Racism is probably largely intrinsic to human behavior.
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Post by MrJonno » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:59 am

Honestly, I don't think anyone would be left. Racism is probably largely intrinsic to human behavior.
So is rape and murder but luckily we can move above our baser instincts
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:06 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Honestly, I don't think anyone would be left. Racism is probably largely intrinsic to human behavior.
So is rape and murder but luckily we can move above our baser instincts
I don't think rape and murder are intrinsic human behaviors, but there certainly is evidence for certain ethnic groups to engage in that type of activity at a much higher frequency.
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Post by Mysturji » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:09 pm

Rum wrote:Well in the name of political correctness by all means lets dodge the subject and its causes, double talk our way out of solutions and complicate the issues so much they don't make sense any more. I don't know the strategy in question, but if there is an issue with black males and guns in North London (and they are killing each other mostly let's remember) then why not tackle it head on? There are issues associated with young black males as a specific group in and around London. To characterise identifying that automatically as racist is intellectually lazy and just a politically correct knee jerk in my view.
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Post by Cormac » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:06 pm

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Heh heh. One ironic moment. That blue sign on the left says "Low Emission Zone". Ironic, because there's a bus fire emitting a LOT of black smoke. (That, and the police cars and buildings also in flames...).
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:11 pm

Mysturji wrote:
Rum wrote:Well in the name of political correctness by all means lets dodge the subject and its causes, double talk our way out of solutions and complicate the issues so much they don't make sense any more. I don't know the strategy in question, but if there is an issue with black males and guns in North London (and they are killing each other mostly let's remember) then why not tackle it head on? There are issues associated with young black males as a specific group in and around London. To characterise identifying that automatically as racist is intellectually lazy and just a politically correct knee jerk in my view.
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So please, let the non-white male residents of London shoot each other in the name of tolerance, and let airport security continue to search little old white ladies for our safety and protection, but let the nice Muslim gentlemen through, because they're obviously devoutly religious and therefore, by definition, "Good".
Because simply acknowledging that there is a problem is all some people need to cry racism. That's why most of the news reports on various outbreaks don't mention the race. You might have a video showing 40 young blacks robbing a convenience store in a flash mob, but the article text will call them only youth and make no mention of race.
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