Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil

[amok]

RC wrote:
It looks like charlou was not an invited player. The game started with 13 invited and 4 uninvited players. Let us assume that the game started with 3 scum and agent 47. If the game hitman doesn't have a traitor (this needs to be confirmed), it means that scum would not be invited to the party. Once we agreed on the mass role claim, what options would the 2 surviving scum members and agent 47 have.
After feck's death, there was only one waiter left. Making a fake claim of a waiter would have been risky, since town were pretty sure that mattshizzle was the surviving waiter.
Az and contra probably agreed upon faking the role of officer and guest. ( This might explain why contra was pissed when we agreed to mass out).
Agent 47 ( who probably cannot communicate with scum ?) also chose the role of a guest.

Pure speculation folks. But, I am OK with voting Az.

##unvote linus##
##vote Az##

RC, why did you think probably cannot communicate with Scum?

[amok]

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RC, why did you think Agent 47 probably cannot communicate with Scum?

[r.c]

diva was killed by A47.
List of lynch votes on diva.
oblivion, gib, r.c., contra, amok, zigmen, useless twit

List of people claiming guests (alive)

irre, linus, MZ, r.c, amok

The two people common in the list are amok and I. Amok's current vote is on linus. Since linus already has a clear majority, I'm going to vote irre. If linus does turn out to be innocent, it would be interesting to see who kills linus.

##unvote linus##
##vote irre##

RC, as I told Linus before, I stopped focusing on the Diva Was Killed By Agent 47 thing after Aza was killed by Bodyguards (according to Gonzo). The people who voted to lynch Aza were: Irre, Zigmen, Amok, Oblivion, Contra and RC. No bodyguards (Ani and Ksen).

Thanks for pointing it out. I missed that.

[r.c]

RC wrote:
It looks like charlou was not an invited player. The game started with 13 invited and 4 uninvited players. Let us assume that the game started with 3 scum and agent 47. If the game hitman doesn't have a traitor (this needs to be confirmed), it means that scum would not be invited to the party. Once we agreed on the mass role claim, what options would the 2 surviving scum members and agent 47 have.
After feck's death, there was only one waiter left. Making a fake claim of a waiter would have been risky, since town were pretty sure that mattshizzle was the surviving waiter.
Az and contra probably agreed upon faking the role of officer and guest. ( This might explain why contra was pissed when we agreed to mass out).
Agent 47 ( who probably cannot communicate with scum ?) also chose the role of a guest.

Pure speculation folks. But, I am OK with voting Az.

##unvote linus##
##vote Az##

RC, why did you think probably cannot communicate with Scum?

I was not sure.
But I have since changed my mind. What would be the point of a scum role if A47 acts independently. Also charlou was a scum investigator whose role I guess was to find targets. But, again what I don't understand is what is the point of having targets, if the scum win condition was to achieve parity.

[Linus]

But I have since changed my mind. What would be the point of a scum role if A47 acts independently. Also charlou was a scum investigator whose role I guess was to find targets. But, again what I don't understand is what is the point of having targets, if the scum win condition was to achieve parity.

contra said he couldn't block agent 47 (and later modified the statement). It's hardly the sort of thing a scum blocker would make up to seem more like a town blocker, but I suppose it could have been misdirection. If not, it points to scum not knowing who agent 47 is.

[amok]

The targets were the Specials, so I guess the idea is it was a priority for Scum to find and eliminate them ASAP. The rest of us have to find Scum the old-fashioned way, without any powers.

[Linus]

The only ones paying attention are amok and rc. There's very likely just one threat to town left so the fear of what might happen if semi-cleared town players don't stick together is unfounded. It's better to think and vote independently & observe others think and vote independently, and there's no need to be afraid of being wrong (if townie accuracy is measured objectively & with statistical significance, and not through selective memories in the post-game chats, I'm confident that even the best town player will have an unflatteringly small margin down to a random number generator or a feces-throwing chimpanzee). If you desperately want to vote with someone tomorrow, it makes sense to either vote rc or to follow rc's lead since some of his thoughts have been suspiciously accurate.

(BTW, I lied about being willing to go along with getting myself godkilled, but would've been interested in MZ's response. I don't think the rule against quoting the role PM should be respected less than, say, the rule against editing posts or communication outside the game thread.)

[Linus]

This game has been dominated by other stuff than voting, but let's have some color anyway.


Final vote counts

day 1:
charlou: 4 (gib, oblivion, linus, dpmz)
amok: 1 (diva)
ani: 1 (zigmen)
oblivion: 1 (ani)
dpmz: 1 (aza)
shizzle: 1 (charlou)
irre: 1 (amok)
(null: feck, ut, contra, irre, ksen, rc, shizzle)

day 2:
diva: 7 (oblivion, gib, rc, contra, amok, zigmen, ut)
oblivion: 3 (linus, diva, ani)
linus: 2 (dpmz, irre)
(null: aza, ksen, shizzle)

day 3:
aza: 6 (irre, zigmen, amok, oblivion, contra, rc)
linus: 4 (dpmz, shizzle, ani, ksen)
contra: 1 (linus)
zigmen: 1 (gib)
(null: aza)

day 4:
contra: 8 (linus, rc, zigmen, ksen, gib, amok, dpmz, oblivion)
zigmen: 2 (contra, irre)
(null: shizzle)


vote targets

day 1:
amok [1 1 1]: irre
ani [1 1 1]: oblivion
aza [1 1 1]: dpmz
charlou [3 2 2]: irre, null, shizzle
contra [2 1 1]: linus, null
diva [5 4 4]: oblivion, zigmen, dpmz, null, amok
dpmz [2 2 2]: diva, charlou
feck [0 0 0]:
gib [3 3 3]: irre, diva, charlou
irre [3 2 2]: charlou, dpmz, null
ksen [0 0 0]:
linus [2 2 2]: dpmz, charlou
oblivion [3 3 3]: zigmen, diva, charlou
rc [0 0 0]:
shizzle [0 0 0]:
ut [0 0 0]:
zigmen [3 2 2]: oblivion, null, ani

day 2:
amok [1 1 1]: diva
ani [3 3 2]: oblivion, linus, oblivion
aza [0 0 0]:
contra [1 1 1]: diva
diva [4 3 2]: oblivion, null, irre, oblivion
dpmz [1 1 1]: linus
gib [6 5 3]: contra, null, linus, diva, linus, diva
irre [4 3 2]: linus, null, diva, linus
ksen [0 0 0]:
linus [1 1 1]: oblivion
oblivion [4 4 2]: linus, diva, linus, diva
rc [1 1 1]: diva
shizzle [0 0 0]:
ut [1 1 1]: diva
zigmen [2 2 2]: shizzle, diva

day 3:
amok [3 2 2]: zigmen, null, aza
ani [1 1 1]: linus
aza [0 0 0]:
contra [3 2 2]: gib, null, aza
dpmz [1 1 1]: linus
gib [5 5 4]: linus, contra, linus, aza, zigmen
irre [2 2 2]: zigmen, aza
ksen [1 1 1]: linus
linus [1 1 1]: contra
oblivion [8 5 4]: linus, contra, null, linus, null, zigmen, null, aza
rc [2 2 2]: linus, aza
shizzle [1 1 1]: linus
zigmen [3 3 3]: ani, linus, aza

day 4:
amok [1 1 1]: contra
contra [2 2 2]: oblivion, zigmen
diva [0 0 0]:
dpmz [1 1 1]: contra
gib [1 1 1]: contra
irre [1 1 1]: zigmen
ksen [1 1 1]: contra
linus [1 1 1]: contra
oblivion [3 2 1]: contra, null, contra
rc [1 1 1]: contra
shizzle [0 0 0]:
zigmen [2 2 2]: linus, contra

[Gonzo]

NIGHTFALL

[Gonzo]

LYNCHEE
01. amok
02. gib
03. irre [2] Magic Ziggy, rc
04. ksen
05. Linus [5.5] gib, irre, oblivion, amok, ksen
06. MagicZiggy
07. MattShizzle
08. oblivion
09. r.c. [1] Linus

Linus was Guest - The Franchise - Vanilla who's neck is snapped clean by the killer 47 while pissing at a urinal.


Attending the party by invitation are
Guests (3)
Waiters (1)
Body Guards (1)
Officers (2)

Stay on the lookout for a suspicious looking VIP.

[amok]

Linus's votes: Charlou, Oblivion, Contra, Contra

RC's votes: Null, Diva, Aza, Contra

Amok's votes: Irre, Diva, Aza, Contra

Irre's votes: Null, Linus, Aza, Zigmen

DPMZ's votes: Aza, Linus, Linus, Contra

[amok]

Correction:

Linus's votes: Charlou, Oblivion, Contra, Contra, RC

RC's votes: Null, Diva, Aza, Contra, Irre

Amok's votes: Irre, Diva, Aza, Contra, Linus

Irre's votes: Null, Linus, Aza, Zigmen, Linus

DPMZ's votes: Charlou (not Aza), Linus, Linus, Contra, Irre

[amok]

I hope there's not a shortened night again. One of Oblivion, Gib or Ksen are doomed tonight anyway, but it would be good to have some discussion this night.

[oblivion]

hope it's me tbh. right now, I would go with r.c, I think. but, I need to consider if I'm giving mz too much of a pass based on dp's day 1.

if it's irre, I have a blind spot. though there was something about d1 p 6-8 which caught my atention yesterday. guess it didn't do the same for gib.

[gib]

shit i thought that would end it