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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Gallstones » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:45 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
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Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men. :coffee:
you are supposed to wipe your ass?
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Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Don't Panic » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:48 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men. :coffee:
you are supposed to wipe your ass?
:? You can't be a member of the club either.
There's a club?

Am I in it?
You have to pass a test and score high as a gun nut to get in.
And you have to wipe.
Wipe, yes.

Gun nut, what's the test?
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:49 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
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Tyrannical wrote:A handgun is probably more accurate than an AK-47.
Well, I wouldn't say that. The AK47 and its variants are highly accurate and the design is one of the most reliable in the world, not to mention easy and cheap to build. But a skilled handgun marksman has it over an unskilled AK user at close range.
It depends on what you consider a variant. A high quality weapon designed to high tolerances should be called something else :{D
The AK-47's high mechanical tolerances results in a high reliability for working, but that variability leads to inaccuracies over distances. Plus the barrel vibrates like a mother. Very effective against unarmed civilians at close range though :prof:
Horseshit. The AK is as accurate as is necessary in an assault rifle, and it's effective on human-sized targets out to 600 meters, just like the M-16 is. Both are designed to be used as significantly shorter ranges in normal operations, generally less than 300 meters, and both will easily group inside 1moa (minute of angle) at those ranges, meaning inside 3 inches at 300 yards, which is sufficiently accurate to kill the enemy.

The AK-47, the real deal automatic assault rifle, is widely considered to be one of the finest, most effective and most reliable military weapons ever made.

Now, for long range accuracy, my personal favorite is the Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua Magnum, from Norway's neighbor, Finland. Shoots inside 1/2 MOA at any range out to 1500 meters. Shoots inside 1/4 MOA at ranges less than 500 meters. But it's a bolt-action sniper rifle, not an assault weapon. Of course my mantra is that if they are closer than 600 meters, they are too damned close and it's past time to shoot and move.
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:51 pm

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Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men. :coffee:
you are supposed to wipe your ass?
Really? My tiny-minded wiper of other people's bottoms will be devastated to learn he's out of a job.
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:57 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Cowards get other people to do their dirty work for them. Courageous people do the work themselves.
Intelligent people never do anything alone that can be done together or by getting someone who does it professionally for a living to do it.
Whether its negotiating a payrise (use a union) or shooting dead bad guys (get a gun trained policeman). It's why the loner in the end will never acheive anything as he will always be massively outnumbered by people who will work together to achieve their aims

Car doesnt work hire a mechanic, toilet doesnt work hire a plumber, neighbour might have a firearm get the police to arrest/shoot them.
Problem is, you can negotiate a pay raise at your leisure, hire a taxi to take you to work when your car is broken, and shit in your neighbor's toilet when yours has been clogged up by all the shit you spew, but when you need a firearm because your neighbor is determined to shoot you, you don't have the luxury of waiting for the police, as the occupants of that island in Norway discovered to their horror.

Either you are prepared to defend yourself or you're not, and there's no calling for a time-out. Adapt or die.

Only delusional idiots bet their lives on the police being there when they are really needed.
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:01 pm

MrJonno wrote:
uestion: Do mechanics and plumbers work alone or in support groups?


If you call for a plumber and he shows up at your door alone--don't let him in!
Who knows what he might have in his bag.
General advice if you are a women alone don't let them in or at least tell someone the mechanic is coming around, in all cases asked for ID to show they are a member of the various plumbing organisations
Better yet, put your pistol in your pocket (or in its holster on your belt under your shirt) and keep your distance till he's done his work. If he attacks, shoot him.
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:03 pm

MrJonno wrote:
I feel reasonable safe with my neighbours they really are pretty average, but if one ever got hold of a gun and tried to shoot the other there is a fair chance the bullet will go through the shared wall and hit me. Thats why I don't want them getting hold of one
Sorry bud, but you have no idea whether they have a gun or not. Nor will you till the bullet comes through the wall and strikes you in the head, killing you in your sleep.

Sleep tight sweetie.
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Svartalf » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:06 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men. :coffee:
you are supposed to wipe your ass?
:? You can't be a member of the club either.
I knew you'd blackball me anyway, I usually don't lower the seat after taking a N°1
Gallstones wrote: You have to pass a test and score high as a gun nut to get in.
And you have to wipe.
but I'm pretty sure using a gun to wipe your nuts is not the proper procedure.
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:08 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:
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Feck wrote:Man dressed as police man gets off boat asks if they have heard about the bomb , says it was an attack on the party ,asks if there are any guns held on the Island ... The idea if there were guns held on the island there would have been no massacre is not certain is it ?
Why would the presence of guns on the island have caused him to reconsider? He was committed. Given his agenda, knowing if there were guns on the island would be valuable information to him--someone might shoot back, and he could appropriate them if opportunity presented.

Does this mean I'm thinking like a gun crazed latent mass murderer?


I wonder if he had not been dressed as a policeman, if he had stepped on the island, rifle in hand in regular clothes, if more would have been alarmed sooner and been able to get away?

Oh no you get me wrong I'm suggesting that within minutes of being on that island in the guise of a police officer all those legally holding guns would have identified themselves and be the first ones shot . The killer would then have carried on just as he actually did with but with an extra gun or two .
Oooh, good point.
That would be very clever of him.
Cop walks into a crowd in Norway and asks, "Who here is carrying a gun?" Nobody replies. He shoots everybody.

Cop walks into a crowd in Colorado and asks the same question, and gets the same response. He starts shooting and a dozen people promptly pull their legally-carried concealed firearms and shoot him dead.

You see, we're not required to answer silly questions like that even when they are posed by REAL police officers, because we're not breaking any laws and we have the right to remain silent in the face of a police interrogation.

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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Seth » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:10 pm

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MrJonno wrote:
How many of you does it take to change a lightbulb? Seriously! You've never looked into the toilet tank to see what the problem might be? You've never looked under the hood of an automobile and maybe checked the fluids now and then? Can you change a flat tire?
I can do a lightbulb but not a light fitting (doing much more with electrical wiring without training could well be illegal in the UK). No to all the others never driven a car since passing my driving test far prefer to get a bus/train and read a book.

You pay for the AA (AAA? in the US) so you don't have to do such things.

Far better to specialise in your narrow area earn enough to pay for people who specialise in theirs ( if I end up on a desert island I'm well aware I'm screwed) but as I don't like going anywhere further than 200 m from a bus stop that seems a little unlikely
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Well put. Now where's that Orson Wells smiley?
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Svartalf » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:13 pm

Srsly, what are the odds there ever was a man like that?
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by MrJonno » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:20 pm

Seth wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
uestion: Do mechanics and plumbers work alone or in support groups?


If you call for a plumber and he shows up at your door alone--don't let him in!
Who knows what he might have in his bag.
General advice if you are a women alone don't let them in or at least tell someone the mechanic is coming around, in all cases asked for ID to show they are a member of the various plumbing organisations
Better yet, put your pistol in your pocket (or in its holster on your belt under your shirt) and keep your distance till he's done his work. If he attacks, shoot him.
You really do scare me as don't actually think you are joking when you say that but I can't be sure
When only criminals carry guns the police know exactly who to shoot!

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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Gallstones » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:24 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
You have to pass a test and score high as a gun nut to get in.
And you have to wipe.
Wipe, yes.

Gun nut, what's the test?
To begin: raise a right or left hand (I'll need to know which) and repeat after me, "I swear to God."
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:26 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
You have to pass a test and score high as a gun nut to get in.
And you have to wipe.
Wipe, yes.

Gun nut, what's the test?
To begin: raise a right or left hand and repeat after me, "I swear to God."
OK, I'm in! *Raises right middle finger and shouts, "fuck you, god!"*
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Re: Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by Gallstones » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:28 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
You have to pass a test and score high as a gun nut to get in.
And you have to wipe.
Wipe, yes.

Gun nut, what's the test?
To begin: raise a right or left hand and repeat after me, "I swear to God."
OK, I'm in! *Raises right middle finger and shouts, "fuck you, god!"*
Not so fast.
You do get points for innovation.
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