Oslo Blast Gun Derail

Post by **Gallstones** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:47 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Thank goodness none of those window hitters and expletive shouters had guns. That kind of maniacal impulsivity would be deadly
Exactly out of control mobs and the breakdown of law and order is something to look out for

You played right into my hands.

Post by **Gallstones** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:55 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Do you fear your neighbors for some reason?
Enough to avoid them after they have had a few drinks, the plates are smashing against the wall and the music is booming through the wall. Pretty average neighbours really

Fuck!

None of my neighbors do this, and they own guns.

Post by **MrJonno** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:57 pm

uestion: Do mechanics and plumbers work alone or in support groups?

If you call for a plumber and he shows up at your door alone--don't let him in!
Who knows what he might have in his bag.

General advice if you are a women alone don't let them in or at least tell someone the mechanic is coming around, in all cases asked for ID to show they are a member of the various plumbing organisations

Post by **Feck** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:07 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:Man dressed as police man gets off boat asks if they have heard about the bomb , says it was an attack on the party ,asks if there are any guns held on the Island ... The idea if there were guns held on the island there would have been no massacre is not certain is it ?
Why would the presence of guns on the island have caused him to reconsider? He was committed. Given his agenda, knowing if there were guns on the island would be valuable information to him--someone might shoot back, and he could appropriate them if opportunity presented.

Does this mean I'm thinking like a gun crazed latent mass murderer?

I wonder if he had not been dressed as a policeman, if he had stepped on the island, rifle in hand in regular clothes, if more would have been alarmed sooner and been able to get away?

Oh no you get me wrong I'm suggesting that within minutes of being on that island in the guise of a police officer all those legally holding guns would have identified themselves and be the first ones shot . The killer would then have carried on just as he actually did with but with an extra gun or two .

Feck wrote:the last figures I saw for the US stated that the ratio of crimes commited using guns to crimes stopped by guns was about 6:1

Post by **MrJonno** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:12 pm

Gallstones wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Do you fear your neighbors for some reason?
Enough to avoid them after they have had a few drinks, the plates are smashing against the wall and the music is booming through the wall. Pretty average neighbours really
Fuck!

None of my neighbors do this, and they own guns.

Didnt think most Americans lived near enough to their neighbours to hear them?

I feel reasonable safe with my neighbours they really are pretty average, but if one ever got hold of a gun and tried to shoot the other there is a fair chance the bullet will go through the shared wall and hit me. Thats why I don't want them getting hold of one

Post by **Gallstones** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:13 pm

Feck wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:Man dressed as police man gets off boat asks if they have heard about the bomb , says it was an attack on the party ,asks if there are any guns held on the Island ... The idea if there were guns held on the island there would have been no massacre is not certain is it ?
Why would the presence of guns on the island have caused him to reconsider? He was committed. Given his agenda, knowing if there were guns on the island would be valuable information to him--someone might shoot back, and he could appropriate them if opportunity presented.

Does this mean I'm thinking like a gun crazed latent mass murderer?

I wonder if he had not been dressed as a policeman, if he had stepped on the island, rifle in hand in regular clothes, if more would have been alarmed sooner and been able to get away?

Oh no you get me wrong I'm suggesting that within minutes of being on that island in the guise of a police officer all those legally holding guns would have identified themselves and be the first ones shot . The killer would then have carried on just as he actually did with but with an extra gun or two .

Oooh, good point.
That would be very clever of him.

Post by **Feck** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:21 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:Man dressed as police man gets off boat asks if they have heard about the bomb , says it was an attack on the party ,asks if there are any guns held on the Island ... The idea if there were guns held on the island there would have been no massacre is not certain is it ?
Why would the presence of guns on the island have caused him to reconsider? He was committed. Given his agenda, knowing if there were guns on the island would be valuable information to him--someone might shoot back, and he could appropriate them if opportunity presented.

Does this mean I'm thinking like a gun crazed latent mass murderer?

I wonder if he had not been dressed as a policeman, if he had stepped on the island, rifle in hand in regular clothes, if more would have been alarmed sooner and been able to get away?

Oh no you get me wrong I'm suggesting that within minutes of being on that island in the guise of a police officer all those legally holding guns would have identified themselves and be the first ones shot . The killer would then have carried on just as he actually did with but with an extra gun or two .
Oooh, good point.
That would be very clever of him.

Now aren't you glad this fecked up loony doesn't have free access to guns

Post by **Gallstones** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:23 pm

MrJonno wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
Do you fear your neighbors for some reason?
Enough to avoid them after they have had a few drinks, the plates are smashing against the wall and the music is booming through the wall. Pretty average neighbours really
Fuck!

None of my neighbors do this, and they own guns.
Didnt think most Americans lived near enough to their neighbours to hear them?

I feel reasonable safe with my neighbours they really are pretty average, but if one ever got hold of a gun and tried to shoot the other there is a fair chance the bullet will go through the shared wall and hit me. Thats why I don't want them getting hold of one

We do have cities in the US. Perhaps you have heard of some of them---Los Angeles, New York, Washington DC?
We even have towns and cities in Montana. I live in town. A small town. My neighbors and I share a back fence.

I never hear my neighbors, I have no idea what they get up to. I know the young guy on the south side smokes on his deck and does drink beer and owns an English Bulldog. The older lady on the north side owns a Yorkie and a Pomeranian and is Catholic. Sometimes I get her mail. When I walk it over to her she says thank you. Never has pulled a gun on me for knocking on her door.

Post by **Don't Panic** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:23 pm

MrJonno wrote:
How many of you does it take to change a lightbulb? Seriously! You've never looked into the toilet tank to see what the problem might be? You've never looked under the hood of an automobile and maybe checked the fluids now and then? Can you change a flat tire?
I can do a lightbulb but not a light fitting (doing much more with electrical wiring without training could well be illegal in the UK). No to all the others never driven a car since passing my driving test far prefer to get a bus/train and read a book.

You pay for the AA (AAA? in the US) so you don't have to do such things.

Far better to specialise in your narrow area earn enough to pay for people who specialise in theirs ( if I end up on a desert island I'm well aware I'm screwed) but as I don't like going anywhere further than 200 m from a bus stop that seems a little unlikely

R.A.H. wrote:A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

Post by **Gallstones** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:25 pm

Feck wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:
Gallstones wrote:
Feck wrote:Man dressed as police man gets off boat asks if they have heard about the bomb , says it was an attack on the party ,asks if there are any guns held on the Island ... The idea if there were guns held on the island there would have been no massacre is not certain is it ?
Why would the presence of guns on the island have caused him to reconsider? He was committed. Given his agenda, knowing if there were guns on the island would be valuable information to him--someone might shoot back, and he could appropriate them if opportunity presented.

Does this mean I'm thinking like a gun crazed latent mass murderer?

I wonder if he had not been dressed as a policeman, if he had stepped on the island, rifle in hand in regular clothes, if more would have been alarmed sooner and been able to get away?

Oh no you get me wrong I'm suggesting that within minutes of being on that island in the guise of a police officer all those legally holding guns would have identified themselves and be the first ones shot . The killer would then have carried on just as he actually did with but with an extra gun or two .
Oooh, good point.
That would be very clever of him.
Now aren't you glad this fecked up loony doesn't have free access to guns

Ban police uniforms?

Post by **Seth** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:29 pm

Pensioner wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:An AK-47 is a horribly inaccurate weapons at distance. It is more of a point and shoot weapon like a shotgun, hence full automatic being the norm, than an aim and fire weapon like a rifle.
Bull shit.

I agree with you, wonder of wonders. Tyrannical doesn't have a fucking clue about firearms.

In point of fact, the AK and it's variants are as accurate as any other assault rifle out to beyond 600 meters, and they are fully automatic (in the military version) because, well, they are military assault weapons. Civilian variants are semi-automatic; one trigger-pull, one round fired.

Post by **Svartalf** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:38 pm

Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men.

you are supposed to wipe your ass?

Post by **Seth** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:40 pm

Pensioner wrote: This a photo of me in Ireland, If one of the IRA had opened up on me with a AK 47
I would have taken them out with my 38, in my dreams maybe.

Seth wrote:Why use a .38 when you've got a main gun and presumably a machine gun or two? But if all you had was a .38, I'm willing to bet that you'd have used it, now wouldn't you? Otherwise, why did you have it?

Pensioner wrote:If I had been at that place I would have shot the bastard within a heart beat, make no mistake about it.

Well, there you go. Bringing a pistol to a rifle-fight is not the optimum response, but it beats the hell out of not bringing any firearm, doesn't it?

Post by **Gallstones** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:42 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men.
you are supposed to wipe your ass?

You can't be a member of the club either.

Post by **Don't Panic** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:44 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Gallstones wrote:Are intelligent people capable of going to the bathroom alone and wiping their own asses?
I know women go to the bathroom in groups. That is probably because they are more intelligent than men.
you are supposed to wipe your ass?
You can't be a member of the club either.

There's a club?

Am I in it?

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