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The Daily Mail and the Norwegian nutter

Post by Lozzer » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:53 pm

From his manifesto:
Our culture is now deep into uncharted territory. Generations of family disintegration in turn are unravelling the fundamentals of civilised human behaviour. Committed fathers are crucial to their children’s emotional development. As a result of the incalculable irresponsibility of our elites, however, fathers have been seen for the past three decades as expendable and disposable. Lone parenthood stopped being a source of shame and turned instead into a woman’s inalienable right.

The state has provided more and more inducements to women – through child benefit, council flats and other welfare provision – to have children without committed fathers. This has produced generations of women-only households, where emotionally needy girls so often become hopelessly inadequate mothers who abuse and neglect their own children – who, in turn, perpetuate the destructive pattern. This is culturally nothing less than suicidal.
You know, that's not his own words: but Daily Mail columnist, Melanie Phillips. He cites this passage in his 'manifesto', before adding:
I sometimes wonder whether the modern West, and Western Europe in particular, should be dubbed the Fatherless Civilisation. Fathers have been turned into a caricature and there is a striking demonisation of traditional male values. Any person attempting to enforce rules and authority, a traditional male preserve, is seen as a Fascist and ridiculed, starting with God the Father. We end up with a society of vague fathers who can be replaced at the whim of the mothers at any given moment. Even the mothers have largely abdicated, leaving the upbringing of children to schools, kindergartens and television. In fashion and lifestyle, mothers imitate their daughters, not vice versa.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mail and its followers seem to be trying to excuse his behaviour as if he was 'pushed' to what he did through resent of immigration and Muslims.
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Re: The Daily Mail and the Norwegian nutter

Post by Rum » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:01 pm

He quotes not only the Daily Mail but also Jeremy Clarkeson in his rant of a 'manifesto'.

What are we to conclude from that I wonder!?

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Post by Lozzer » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:03 pm

Rum wrote:He quotes not only the Daily Mail but also Jeremy Clarkeson in his rant of a 'manifesto'.

What are we to conclude from that I wonder!?
But the Guardian ten times or so, as well.
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Post by normal » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:06 pm

The vultures of hate and ignorance are already circling the corpses of the innocent.

Friends of mine in Oslo have already had visits by JWs and been approached by Hare Krishnas. I hoped the vultures would be able to leave this alone, but no. Of course they won't. I expect to see lots of shit from various groups trying to twist this to serve their own purpose. It's sickening.
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Re: The Daily Mail and the Norwegian nutter

Post by Lozzer » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:16 pm

normal wrote:The vultures of hate and ignorance are already circling the corpses of the innocent.

Friends of mine in Oslo have already had visits by JWs and been approached by Hare Krishnas. I hoped the vultures would be able to leave this alone, but no. Of course they won't. I expect to see lots of shit from various groups trying to twist this to serve their own purpose. It's sickening.
The PM says Norway is unified in its collective mourning, but I think what's transpired will be a catalyst for divisiveness, fracturing and ruthless political point scoring. It's already happening here. It's so sad.
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Re: The Daily Mail and the Norwegian nutter

Post by klr » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:18 pm

normal wrote:The vultures of hate and ignorance are already circling the corpses of the innocent.

Friends of mine in Oslo have already had visits by JWs and been approached by Hare Krishnas. I hoped the vultures would be able to leave this alone, but no. Of course they won't. I expect to see lots of shit from various groups trying to twist this to serve their own purpose. It's sickening.
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Post by Ronja » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:36 pm

normal wrote:The vultures of hate and ignorance are already circling the corpses of the innocent.

Friends of mine in Oslo have already had visits by JWs and been approached by Hare Krishnas. I hoped the vultures would be able to leave this alone, but no. Of course they won't. I expect to see lots of shit from various groups trying to twist this to serve their own purpose. It's sickening.
I'm really, really sorry and rather disgusted to hear this. :hugs: Normal, keep us posted & do take care!
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Post by borealis » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:50 pm

Lozzer wrote:From his manifesto:
Our culture is now deep into uncharted territory. Generations of family disintegration in turn are unravelling the fundamentals of civilised human behaviour. Committed fathers are crucial to their children’s emotional development. As a result of the incalculable irresponsibility of our elites, however, fathers have been seen for the past three decades as expendable and disposable. Lone parenthood stopped being a source of shame and turned instead into a woman’s inalienable right.

The state has provided more and more inducements to women – through child benefit, council flats and other welfare provision – to have children without committed fathers. This has produced generations of women-only households, where emotionally needy girls so often become hopelessly inadequate mothers who abuse and neglect their own children – who, in turn, perpetuate the destructive pattern. This is culturally nothing less than suicidal.
You know, that's not his own words: but Daily Mail columnist, Melanie Phillips. He cites this passage in his 'manifesto', before adding:
I sometimes wonder whether the modern West, and Western Europe in particular, should be dubbed the Fatherless Civilisation. Fathers have been turned into a caricature and there is a striking demonisation of traditional male values. Any person attempting to enforce rules and authority, a traditional male preserve, is seen as a Fascist and ridiculed, starting with God the Father. We end up with a society of vague fathers who can be replaced at the whim of the mothers at any given moment. Even the mothers have largely abdicated, leaving the upbringing of children to schools, kindergartens and television. In fashion and lifestyle, mothers imitate their daughters, not vice versa.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mail and its followers seem to be trying to excuse his behaviour as if he was 'pushed' to what he did through resent of immigration and Muslims.
Journalist in one Finnish newspaper explained that this all (shooting+bomb) happened because this guy didn't get enough sex. He compared Breivik to two Finnish school shooters who didn't have girlfriends either. He said none of this had happened if only these young men had a lady friend who filled their sexual needs. He ended his column by suggesting that women should go and spread their legs to the quiet ones, because it could save lives.




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Post by Ronja » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:53 pm

borealis wrote: Journalist in one Finnish newspaper explained that this all (shooting+bomb) happened because this guy didn't get enough sex. He compared Breivik to two Finnish school shooters who didn't have girlfriends either. He said none of this had happened if only these young men had a lady friend who filled their sexual needs. He ended his column by suggesting that women should go and spread their legs to the quiet ones, because it could save lives.
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Re: The Daily Mail and the Norwegian nutter

Post by Lozzer » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:54 pm

borealis wrote:
Lozzer wrote:From his manifesto:
Our culture is now deep into uncharted territory. Generations of family disintegration in turn are unravelling the fundamentals of civilised human behaviour. Committed fathers are crucial to their children’s emotional development. As a result of the incalculable irresponsibility of our elites, however, fathers have been seen for the past three decades as expendable and disposable. Lone parenthood stopped being a source of shame and turned instead into a woman’s inalienable right.

The state has provided more and more inducements to women – through child benefit, council flats and other welfare provision – to have children without committed fathers. This has produced generations of women-only households, where emotionally needy girls so often become hopelessly inadequate mothers who abuse and neglect their own children – who, in turn, perpetuate the destructive pattern. This is culturally nothing less than suicidal.
You know, that's not his own words: but Daily Mail columnist, Melanie Phillips. He cites this passage in his 'manifesto', before adding:
I sometimes wonder whether the modern West, and Western Europe in particular, should be dubbed the Fatherless Civilisation. Fathers have been turned into a caricature and there is a striking demonisation of traditional male values. Any person attempting to enforce rules and authority, a traditional male preserve, is seen as a Fascist and ridiculed, starting with God the Father. We end up with a society of vague fathers who can be replaced at the whim of the mothers at any given moment. Even the mothers have largely abdicated, leaving the upbringing of children to schools, kindergartens and television. In fashion and lifestyle, mothers imitate their daughters, not vice versa.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mail and its followers seem to be trying to excuse his behaviour as if he was 'pushed' to what he did through resent of immigration and Muslims.
Journalist in one Finnish newspaper explained that this all (shooting+bomb) happened because this guy didn't get enough sex. He compared Breivik to two Finnish school shooters who didn't have girlfriends either. He said none of this had happened if only these young men had a lady friend who filled their sexual needs. He ended his column by suggesting that women should go and spread their legs to the quiet ones, because it could save lives.




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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:54 pm

I'm pretty quiet... :shifty:
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Post by Ronja » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:58 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I'm pretty quiet... :shifty:
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So is/was MiM, especially when he was younger... Still waters run deep etc. :fall:
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Post by borealis » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:02 pm

Ronja wrote:
borealis wrote: Journalist in one Finnish newspaper explained that this all (shooting+bomb) happened because this guy didn't get enough sex. He compared Breivik to two Finnish school shooters who didn't have girlfriends either. He said none of this had happened if only these young men had a lady friend who filled their sexual needs. He ended his column by suggesting that women should go and spread their legs to the quiet ones, because it could save lives.
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