Blast in Oslo

[Exi5tentialist]

Well, at least all the muslim-blaming comments have dried up since last night.

[Magicziggy]

Very sad.

I value life greatly.

[devogue]

It looks like the killer will get out of prison after 21 years - the maximum sentence for murder in Norway. He could even be out after 14 years.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Races are fictions. Religions are fictions. Fictions are fictions.

So is racism fiction then? Or is that denial?

Racism is a fiction that some people are a different race than other people and deserve to be treated as "less than us". It builds on a fiction to make a new fiction. Victimization due to belief in this fiction is very real, of course.

[Rum]

The latest information is the suspect was of far right persuasion, with a strong belief in the power of the individual and libertarian opinions. I won't state the obvious.

[Svartalf]

a complete moron even unable to understand his own avowed ideology you mean? / thing made more sense, if terrorism ever doesI lack data, but cannot even begin to understand what he hoped to achieve there, even the

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The latest information is the suspect was of far right persuasion, with a strong belief in the power of the individual and libertarian opinions. I won't state the obvious.

...that it was definitely Mossad then?

[Exi5tentialist]

it's unlikely that such isolated venues will be used again.

Totally agree.

From the Guardian
Deadly shootings worldwide

July 2011: At least 84 killed at a summer camp on the Norwegian island of Utoeya, hours after bomb blast in capital Oslo
April 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, kills 32 people and himself on Virginia Tech campus in the US
April 2002: Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, kills 16 people before killing himself in Erfurt, Germany
April 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, open fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado killing 13 people before taking their own lives
April 1996: Martin Bryant, 29, kills 35 people in the seaside resort of Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia
March 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, kills 16 children and their teacher in a school in Dunblane, Scotland - before killing himself

Things to note:-

1) None of these killers were muslims
2) It will happen again and the locations will be random
3) There needs to be more emphasis on escape routes

On point 3) it looks like the death toll was a function of the total lack of escape routes. This probably will become a regulatory aspect of building and venue design in future, and will save more lives than putting more guns around. We might have to accept that living in high-population zones, and high-conformity societies, is so stressful that some people lose it completely from time to time. We need to look at the conformity I think, but escape routes in all gatherings should be at the forefront of venue management from now on.

[Exi5tentialist]

Racism is a fiction that some people are a different race than other people and deserve to be treated as "less than us". It builds on a fiction to make a new fiction. Victimization due to belief in this fiction is very real, of course.

I'd say race and racism are conceptual constructions, not fictions, otherwise I'd agree.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Exi5tentialist, watcha got on bombings and rocket attacks?

I'd say race and racism are conceptual constructions, not fictions, otherwise I'd agree.

Iz just a simple country boy.

[Tero]

As long as he was not an atheist. They string together all kinds of "labels" and the Norwegians are allergic to labels. Racism needs to be swept under the rug quickly, an embarrassment.

[Tero]

Racism would be cultural, if we all looked the same but spoke different languages etc.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Racism would be cultural, if we all looked the same but spoke different languages etc.

They will always find some excuse for hating somebody else. Bosnia is a prime example. You pretty much had to ask somebody's name to find out if you hated their guts or not.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

As long as he was not an atheist. They string together all kinds of "labels" and the Norwegians are allergic to labels. Racism needs to be swept under the rug quickly, an embarrassment.

Bright light works better. The fuckers skulk like rats in dark places.

[Lozzer]

This is so sad :/



On the bottom left, that's a child begging for his life.