Dawkins: At War With The Feminists?

[leo-rcc]

I'm objectifying the hell out of Rose right now.

[Atheist-Lite]

I think a dual lift system, especially in the US where males are very domineering and lifts are common, is the answer. In a recession it would give meaningful work to adapt the existant elevator systems. In new buildings there would be twice as many lifts if a quick a evacuation is necessary. I guess this would only happen if women became more frequent in political life and sought the necessary changes as I can understand, here, the limited insight many men have on this.

[Coito ergo sum]

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[Cormac]

I'm objectifying the hell out of Rose right now.

Fuck's sake. "There ARE issues", not "There IS issues".


Talk about a total failure to understand Dawkin's original post.

Far too fucking earnest, not enough brainz.

[charlou]

And, the memes just keep on comin'.....

Hahaha yeah

[Coito ergo sum]

Oh, dear. Richard Dawkins is having difficulty understanding why being invited to coffee in a hotel room at 4 in the morning by a strange man can be traumatic for a woman. And, upon realizing he'd begun digging himself a hole, proceeded to rent a backhoe.

http://entequilaesverdad.blogspot.com/2 ... -know.html

The use of the word "traumatic" concerns me here.

trau·mat·ic   
[truh-mat-ik, traw-, trou-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or produced by a trauma or wound.
2.
adapted to the cure of wounds.
3.
psychologically painful.

Psychiatry .
a.
an experience that produces psychological injury or pain.
b.
the psychological injury so caused.

http://www.dictionary.com


Really? "Trauma?"

If the threshold for psychological "trauma" in women is at the "strange man says 'don't take this the wrong way, but I find you interesting and would like to talk more - care to come up to my room for coffee' at 4am" then it would only stand to reason that women are fundamentally weaker than men, and need to be protected from any similar comments and inquiries. At a minimum, shouldn't women have causes of action in court to sue men for the psychiatric trauma suffered in these instances? And, shouldn't men be arrested for these inquiries?

[Cormac]

Oh, dear. Richard Dawkins is having difficulty understanding why being invited to coffee in a hotel room at 4 in the morning by a strange man can be traumatic for a woman. And, upon realizing he'd begun digging himself a hole, proceeded to rent a backhoe.

http://entequilaesverdad.blogspot.com/2 ... -know.html

The use of the word "traumatic" concerns me here.

trau·mat·ic   
[truh-mat-ik, traw-, trou-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or produced by a trauma or wound.
2.
adapted to the cure of wounds.
3.
psychologically painful.

Psychiatry .
a.
an experience that produces psychological injury or pain.
b.
the psychological injury so caused.

http://www.dictionary.com


Really? "Trauma?"

If the threshold for psychological "trauma" in women is at the "strange man says 'don't take this the wrong way, but I find you interesting and would like to talk more - care to come up to my room for coffee' at 4am" then it would only stand to reason that women are fundamentally weaker than men, and need to be protected from any similar comments and inquiries. At a minimum, shouldn't women have causes of action in court to sue men for the psychiatric trauma suffered in these instances? And, shouldn't men be arrested for these inquiries?

[Atheist-Lite]

I think women should be allowed to record intrusive conversations and if these are seen by a court to be manipulative in a certain direction then they should be entitled to press charges, possibly a prison term even. If men don't treat women with respect they deserve no mercy. For much of human history it was the reverse. This isn't about payback however - it is about correcting a overbearing male ego and pressing towards true gender equality, where women are able to be themselves.

[Gallstones]

I think women should be allowed to record intrusive conversations and if these are seen by a court to be manipulative in a certain direction then they should be entitled to press charges, possibly a prison term even. If men don't treat women with respect they deserve no mercy. For much of human history it was the reverse. This isn't about payback however - it is about correcting a overbearing male ego and pressing towards true gender equality, where women are able to be themselves.

In response to your premise, assuming it's not tongue in cheek---No.

We have the type of hand carry technology to record our interactions, but doing that isn't facilitating anyone to be themselves.

[Atheist-Lite]

I think women should be allowed to record intrusive conversations and if these are seen by a court to be manipulative in a certain direction then they should be entitled to press charges, possibly a prison term even. If men don't treat women with respect they deserve no mercy. For much of human history it was the reverse. This isn't about payback however - it is about correcting a overbearing male ego and pressing towards true gender equality, where women are able to be themselves.

In answer to your question, assuming it's not tongue in cheek---No.

We have the type of hand carry technology to record our interactions, but doing that isn't facilitating anyone to be themselves.

I'm just saying. Between an attack alarm and nothing there should be a something. Why not a personal surveilance device? and legal cosequences for verbal intimidation. And emotional abuse by a stranger can be deeply traumatic, being 'chatted up' by a piece of dumb shit must be pretty attrocious when you've got other things doing, like a life to live? Just saying.

[Gallstones]

I think women should be allowed to record intrusive conversations and if these are seen by a court to be manipulative in a certain direction then they should be entitled to press charges, possibly a prison term even. If men don't treat women with respect they deserve no mercy. For much of human history it was the reverse. This isn't about payback however - it is about correcting a overbearing male ego and pressing towards true gender equality, where women are able to be themselves.

In answer to your question, assuming it's not tongue in cheek---No.

We have the type of hand carry technology to record our interactions, but doing that isn't facilitating anyone to be themselves.

I'm just saying. Between an attack alarm and nothing there should be a something. Why not a personal surveilance device? and legal cosequences for verbal intimidation. And emotional abuse by a stranger can be deeply traumatic, being 'chatted up' by a piece of dumb shit must be pretty attrocious when you've got other things doing, like a life to live? Just saying.

I think it would just make people more paranoid and less likely to talk to strangers.

For verbal intimidation one has one's wits.
For anything more threatening one can employ one of those hand held equalizers invented a couple hundred years ago.

[Cunt]

Gallstones, what does '1/[6(10^9) + x]= 0' mean? Is it that anything multiplied by 0 is equal to 0? If so, could you explain a bit better...?

[Gallstones]

Gallstones, what does '1/[6(10^9) + x]= 0' mean? Is it that anything multiplied by 0 is equal to 0? If so, could you explain a bit better...?

10^9 = one billion
6(10^9) = six billion
x = variable, that portion over 6 billion
1 = the individual, me
0 = 0

[charlou]

Oh, dear. Richard Dawkins is having difficulty understanding why being invited to coffee in a hotel room at 4 in the morning by a strange man can be traumatic for a woman. And, upon realizing he'd begun digging himself a hole, proceeded to rent a backhoe.

http://entequilaesverdad.blogspot.com/2 ... -know.html

The use of the word "traumatic" concerns me here.

trau·mat·ic   
[truh-mat-ik, traw-, trou-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or produced by a trauma or wound.
2.
adapted to the cure of wounds.
3.
psychologically painful.

Psychiatry .
a.
an experience that produces psychological injury or pain.
b.
the psychological injury so caused.

http://www.dictionary.com


Really? "Trauma?"

If the threshold for psychological "trauma" in women is at the "strange man says 'don't take this the wrong way, but I find you interesting and would like to talk more - care to come up to my room for coffee' at 4am" then it would only stand to reason that women are fundamentally weaker than men, and need to be protected from any similar comments and inquiries. At a minimum, shouldn't women have causes of action in court to sue men for the psychiatric trauma suffered in these instances? And, shouldn't men be arrested for these inquiries?

I'd go further and say that women are weaker because they're not as clever* and therefore should not be allowed to vote, or to drink port and smoke cigars in the bar with Men.

*Rebecca Watson clearly and undeniably demonstrates this aspect of female weakness with her elevator anecdote, yes.

[Audley Strange]

I've changed my mind on this. I kept out of it because I thought it Skepchick was just making a reasonable request and while I still to an extent see her point of view, I have to say that after following it quietly over the last week, I have come to a very different conclusion than I originally did, which was one based on courtesy and manners.

I realise now that that was an assumption based only haphazardly watching her original video. Having trawled through this drama a lot more it appears, to me at least, that her reliance on certain feminist doctrines made her at the very least as unreasonably paranoid (I'm being really generous with that) as any other conspiracy theorist. Having heard her thoughtlessly parrot the usual slogans of her brand of conspiracy theory "misogyny, privilege, white european male etc". I have little option but to disregard her complaint as been anything but totally invalid to anyone.

Other than that how fucking arrogant of her and others to assume that he wanted to fuck her? She seems to have an massively over-inflated sense of her own image. There is a high probability, given that, to me at least, she looks like a bit of a goofy munter, that the guy might have just wanted to talk. That might be a cheap shot, but this whole drama is filled with them.