The Innsmouth Look game thread.

[Mantisdreamz]

what would people think of lynching b.tern today? it's 100% percent guaranteed to get rid of one of the night kills and buy town some time. I'm just having a huge amount of trouble with both the i.c. kill and believing she's town compatible. The ability to recruit puts her out of normal sk roles, it really sounds like a third party which means non town aligned. It's just that killing i.c. really looks like she tried to readjust the town/scum balance last night. She was suspicious of r.c. and ksen yesterday, but decides to go with someone that most I think had put down to town.

Do you think d.p is scum?

I think he is the most likely atm, but there is a possibility that ksen fake role claimed and dp didn't do anything last night and it was ksen who was blocked. Without b.tern's extra kill we'll have a tomorrow for sure. With it, we're leaving towns fate in the hands of an indie that may or may not be town compatible.

just catching up, but how could ksen have been blocked? char was the only blocker in this game and died on the 1st of the double night rounds.

[Mantisdreamz]

I'm heading out to dinner I'll be back to check in a little later.

MANTIS AND R.C. CHECK IN SOON!

ah!! sorry can't check in from work.

i'm reading this though.. and my initial thought was, let's just kill dp. but, i haven't really gotten through the thread yet or stopped to consider

[Uselesstwit]

ksen wasn't blocked, he followed char to me and I was blocked on night three. he then followed dp on night 4 and said that dp visited athene. Dp says he didn't have an action so either dp or ksen is lying and is our final scum.

[Mantisdreamz]

i don't think that b.ternarius made an awful choice in nk'ing ironclad. he was one of those on the list of uncleared players - in my mind.

there was ut, athene, ksen and myself

it was rc, charlou, dp and ironclad left.

^any 4 of those to nk would have been a good choice, in my mind. (sorry rc) (and sorry zombie ironclad) -- but those were the facts. we needed to minimize the unknowns.

I am almost certain that DP is scum.
But UT makes a good case. If we kill b.tern today well be down to 5 players with athene getting killed too. There will be only 1 night kill (say UT) that would leave 4 of us (ksen, r.c, athene and DP). We would still win.

^ so let's say that we do lynch b.t today, and yea -- athene dies as well and let's say a night kill goes through... and it is UT

it would leave ksen, rc, dp and me

we'd probably lynch dp. and that would hopefully be game over. but -- there is the small possibility that ksen is actually lying. if that's the case - we lynch dp, find out he's town, ksen gets a nk in, and then scum wins.

so I don't really like the look of this scenario because - it leaves no leeway for the possibility that ksen is lying. (i don't really think he is - but you never know).



if we lynch dp today, and he turns out town -- then that night, ksen will make his nk, b.t as well -- say myself and ut get killed - that would leave r.c, b.t, athene and ksen. they lynch ksen that day. ohh, but in this scenario if b.t and athene are now as indy group - they nk rc and win.

both options are not looking very good.


either way, I still think dp is the best bet. looks at his posts and reactions. i think we should deal with him first. he's naturally going to deny being scum.

I have to ask - UT - you're not bringing this up because of a shift in role alignment after Ob's death, are you? You did say that you'd turn vanilla town. But - i don't think you've really elaborated much on what was supposed to happen

[Uselesstwit]

nothing happened, I was ob's personal guard. I had two chances to protect her during the game. I'm basically a doc with no one to protect now, so I don't know what else you'd call me but vanilla town.

What do you think of b.tern's posts today. They look a bit panicked to me, killing dp is only the best choice of plan if you're sure b.tern didn't form a small indie cell when she recruited athene. Also are you satisfied with athene's and b.tern's answer to the question of why they both targeted i.c. last night? Don't you think that the roleblocker being revealed as scum should of moved him up a bit on the likely not scum chart since he was blocked night 2?

[Uselesstwit]

anyway, i'm done talking about this. No one has pointed out where my reasoning is faulty so I'm doing what I think is best.

##unvote dp##

##vote b.tern##

I might check in once more before bed, but it's getting late.

[Mantisdreamz]

anyway, i'm done talking about this. No one has pointed out where my reasoning is faulty so I'm doing what I think is best.

##unvote dp##

##vote b.tern##

I might check in once more before bed, but it's getting late.

shit sorry ut, didn't mean to leave you hanging with your post.

but -- in answer to your question from post above this one -- yes, it is indeed a little odd that both b.t and athene went after ironclad. however towards the end, i was beginning to wonder as well, about my assumption that he was town. it started to occur to me that his insistence and colourful posting might have actually been a scum guise.

if i were one of them.. sk (which acts as vig) or seer, i probably would have gone after r.c - because i was suspicious of him all throughout -- but, i think there choice of ironclad was more reasonable.

the whole thing comes down to occam's razor -- what's the most simplest way of looking at it right now. and that is - that dp is the remainder scum. the fact that athene outed b.t really makes it so that it's more probable that they are not a secret faction. there was no need to put themselves forward like that, if they were. no one was pressuring them

i think we've got to vote DP today based on his silly posts

[r.c]

anyway, i'm done talking about this. No one has pointed out where my reasoning is faulty so I'm doing what I think is best.

##unvote dp##

##vote b.tern##

I might check in once more before bed, but it's getting late.

If either ksen or Dp is scum, how would killing b.tern today solve this problem? Both of them would still be alive tomorrow.

[Mantisdreamz]

also ut - look at DP's reaction today. "ksen is lying! i don't know what he's up to!" meanwhile... "vote r.c" bit of a contradiction there. if he was town, he'd know for sure that ksen was giving a bogus claim, and would have voted him on the spot

[Uselesstwit]

yep the only real difference is if we're wrong we'd still have 2 nights and a day for mantis to maybe get lucky with her block. If we go for the scum lynch today and are wrong the game ends tonight. That's really about it. Just more time for our specials to act instead of throwing everything on this lynch.

[Uselesstwit]

mantis, i'm about 90% sure dp is the final scum, like you said his posts today all but prove it, but i'm 100% sure of b.tern being the sk.

[ksen]

If the game doesn't end with DP's lynching then b.t. needs to go and we'll have him outnumbered at the most by 3-2 (mantis, r.c., me)-(athene, b.t.). I think we are in a good position right now and would rather lynch the known scum and see if the game ends with us winning.

[Mantisdreamz]

mantis, i'm about 90% sure dp is the final scum, like you said his posts today all but prove it, but i'm 100% sure of b.tern being the sk.

let's just go with our certainties than.. and hope that maybe i protect the right person if it's wrong

don't think it is though. and b.ternarius is looking pretty openly helpful right now.. she thought ironclad was a good choice. apparently so did Athene. this is what we wanted before Ob's death - to get rid of the unknowns.. there would have been less wifom if they didn't happen to pick the same person.. but, i think it's just coincidence

[Mantisdreamz]

If the game doesn't end with DP's lynching then b.t. needs to go and we'll have him outnumbered at the most by 3-2 (mantis, r.c., me)-(athene, b.t.). I think we are in a good position right now and would rather lynch the known scum and see if the game ends with us winning.

the only thing you are forgetting is that IF athene and b.t are in a faction together, b.t can still make a nk. putting it down to 2 - 2, coupled with the fact that you might be lying.

mostly though - i'm not wanting to go there. dp has said his piece.. flailed around a little, got his act together, denied being scum, and focused in on UT's ideas of alternate plans.

[ksen]

the only thing you are forgetting is that IF athene and b.t are in a faction together, b.t can still make a nk. putting it down to 2 - 2, coupled with the fact that you might be lying.

I don't get your math there. Let's say we lynch DP today that'll leave us with 6 players so if b.t. and athene are a separate faction now we'd outnumber them 4-2. b.t. makes a NK that'd leave us at 3-2. Yes, I could be lying but I think my record shows that I am not and I know that I am not.

Of course the other scenario is that UT actually converted to scum after Ob's death which means we'd be down to 2 town (whoever is alive between you, me, and r.c.), 2 man indie faction (athene and b.t.), 1 more scum (UT).

I'm really hoping that's not the case and if it is I am going to hate Aza for awhile.