The Innsmouth Look game thread.

[Athene]

Though I do want to know why b.tern killed char. I put r.c and char down as my likely views to warn the vig away, but she went and killed somebody I was likely to view. That isn't pro-town.

[Athene]

ksen, thoughts?

[Uselesstwit]

I've ran through a few scenarios and even if we take out b.tern (and me), tonight, if you get it wrong tomorrow then scum will win. Who would you lynch tomorrow?

almost certainly dp, but keep in mind we have no roleblocker anymore and we still have a doc. with only one scum remaining mantis will have 2 nights minimum to work even with a mislynch. whereas if we mislynch today she only has one night and town won't have a tomorrow in all likelihood. I'm just not seeing a reason not to kill b.tern. And like I said I keep coming back to the killing of I.c., it just feels like after killing char she felt the need to kill a townie to balance things. that screams last survivor win condition, not town compatible.

You seem to be assuming she had prior knowledge of char's alignment in order to decide that she needed to kill a townie next in order to balance things. She wouldn't have given that these kills took place over the double night.

i'm not assuming that at all, but after she did kill char we were all informed of char's alignment, then with only one scum left she went away from everyone's suspicions and killed someone most thought was town. but yet someone she could justify.

[Uselesstwit]

btw with either dp or ksen lying, mantis and r.c. are almost certainly town so i'd love to hear from you two about my idea.

[Athene]

UT, did you get a block message?

[ksen]

ksen, thoughts?

UT is making a compelling case. I hate giving up a sure scum but then I'd also hate lynching the sure scum and still lose the game to an indie. I'd like to hear what Mantis and r.c. have to say.

[Uselesstwit]

UT, did you get a block message?

yep, it happened night three, just like ksen said. so he's either the tracker as claimed or on char's team. like i said it's almost certainly dp as the final scum.

Actually hold on a damn minute. b.tern and you both targeted i.c. the night after char was shown to be the roleblocker. Why the hell did you both waste actions on someone scum had targeted with a block? That's even more suspect than I was thinking.

[ksen]

I'm heading out to dinner I'll be back to check in a little later.

MANTIS AND R.C. CHECK IN SOON!

[Athene]

UT, did you get a block message?

yep, it happened night three, just like ksen said. so he's either the tracker as claimed or on char's team. like i said it's almost certainly dp as the final scum.

Actually hold on a damn minute. b.tern and you both targeted i.c. the night after char was shown to be the roleblocker. Why the hell did you both waste actions on someone scum had targeted with a block? That's even more suspect than I was thinking.

It's a very long and boring story, well not that long really.

I was waiting for the results to come in - it was pretty late my time. I saw ob had posted in the pg gallery and she was out of the game, and aza had said to send views in so I rattled a PM off to him and went to bed. I didn't find out char had been killed until this game day started as I hadn't gone back and checked day 3.

[Athene]

ETA - the day 3 thread.

[b.ternarius]

what would people think of lynching b.tern today? it's 100% percent guaranteed to get rid of one of the night kills and buy town some time. I'm just having a huge amount of trouble with both the i.c. kill and believing she's town compatible. The ability to recruit puts her out of normal sk roles, it really sounds like a third party which means non town aligned. It's just that killing i.c. really looks like she tried to readjust the town/scum balance last night. She was suspicious of r.c. and ksen yesterday, but decides to go with someone that most I think had put down to town.

This is a really dumb idea.

Kill me, Athene dies too. I have no power over her other than her suicide when I die. Obviously this is true, or she wouldn't have outed my role as she did.

'Most' thought was town. I didn't think ironclad was town. I also thought town was smart enough to lynch players they believed were scum, so taking out ic seemed like a reasonable backup/assistance plan to me.

Leave me alive, I agree to kill the second scummiest player tonight. I am not lieing about my win condition.

[b.ternarius]

At the time I placed my views I thought we had a vig and I'd asked the vig to take d.p out, I wasn't going to view somebody who I thought would be killed.

b.t. why didn't you follow athene's advice?

because at the time, I did not know Athene was seer. She was just another town player and her advice was no better than anyone else's.

[b.ternarius]

yes, the vig who turned out to be the sk who happens to have recruited you who happens to kill the exact same people you viewed so we can't confirm your views. can you see why i'm a bit suspicious?

I wasn't recruited. My win condition is the same and my seer ability isn't stopped. What possible benefit would there be for me to out b.tern if I had been recruited and was part of her posse?

I can think of many reasons. One is that you just had to get thru today, then tomorrow you "find" a scum and by the time town finds out it's a mislynch it's to late and your little side team have achieved parity. But that's just paranoia and speculation, what isn't paranoia is that 1 night kill is always better for town than 2 night kills. and there is one absolutely certain way to get rid of one of them. The other way, lynching dp is looking really good. His responses look really weak and he jumped at my idea far to readily for my liking. but still 100% certain to stop a night kill versus mostly certain to stop a night kill? I kinda like the 100% certain way better. also if i'm right an you are a splinter group killing you leaves 4 town to 1 scum instead of 4 town to 2 indies, once again favoring this course of action.

It isn't a 'little side team'. SHE OUTED ME, remember?

You're constructing an interesting story, but it doesn'y make sense when you put facts beside it.

Again I ask if you switched teams on oblivion's death?

[Athene]

At the time I placed my views I thought we had a vig and I'd asked the vig to take d.p out, I wasn't going to view somebody who I thought would be killed.

b.t. why didn't you follow athene's advice?

because at the time, I did not know Athene was seer. She was just another town player and her advice was no better than anyone else's.

Yes you did. You put a vote on feck half an hour before nightfall and said you believed my claim

I have only a few minutes before I have to leave, maybe another five before Nightfall

##vote Feck##

I believe Athene's claim. Unsure of ksen's.

[b.ternarius]

Though I do want to know why b.tern killed char. I put r.c and char down as my likely views to warn the vig away, but she went and killed somebody I was likely to view. That isn't pro-town.

My assumption was that town would lynch players you viewed as scum, and I would take out players that looked scummy enough to be a good bet. Charlou with her attempts to throw suspicion on the UT-Ob pairing for one thing looked scummy enough to take out And I was right.