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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:29 pm

and dp is scum and the game doesn't end we have to kill btern and athene.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:32 pm

mantis, who were your other protects? especially night 3, you couldn't have protected athene because of the no redundant protect thing so why didn't you protect ob?
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:36 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:Also don't lovers die with each other? so wouldn't b.tern die with you instead of live and get to choose a new worshipper? Something smells about your stories.
No. It's an indie role, and not strictly a 'lovers' role. There's nothing about recruitment, like I couldn't contact her or anything, or get her to do something, or even know if she was town or scum. Athene likely knows more of the effect on the chosen one than I do.

I had guessed that it meant she couldn't actively try to have me lynched, but that could be wrong as well, considering she outed my role today.

My end of the story is accurate to the best of my ability to figure it out..

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:41 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
r.c wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:I'm kind of wondering if athene is still town. That sounds an awful lot like a recruit to me, combined with her views of dead people it's really making me wonder.

Athene, r.c. was on you list as most likely to be scum, why did you view i.c. instead?
If the scum have a don, then town must have a seer right? None of the dead players were seer. I don't see how anyone else could be the seer.
I'm not saying she wasn't the seer, I'm saying that I'm finding problems in her story right now.

Today we obviously lynch dp, if he doesn't have a night action we lynch ksen tomorrow. If he's the doc, we are probably screwed but mantis, athene and b.tern will need to be lynched.
You aren't making sense. Why is there any need to lynch me? Especially if I agree to take out any remaining possible scum tonight?

What do we know of the effect on your role of oblivion dieing except what you told us? You have said you have no special roel after her death, but it certainly seems possible to me that dagon's vengeance might also include a team switch. Are you working for scum now? Because you're attacking the wrong players, imv.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:42 pm

also manits, let's have your flavor text while we're at it.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:48 pm

b.ternarius wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:
r.c wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:I'm kind of wondering if athene is still town. That sounds an awful lot like a recruit to me, combined with her views of dead people it's really making me wonder.

Athene, r.c. was on you list as most likely to be scum, why did you view i.c. instead?
If the scum have a don, then town must have a seer right? None of the dead players were seer. I don't see how anyone else could be the seer.
I'm not saying she wasn't the seer, I'm saying that I'm finding problems in her story right now.

Today we obviously lynch dp, if he doesn't have a night action we lynch ksen tomorrow. If he's the doc, we are probably screwed but mantis, athene and b.tern will need to be lynched.
You aren't making sense. Why is there any need to lynch me? Especially if I agree to take out any remaining possible scum tonight?

What do we know of the effect on your role of oblivion dieing except what you told us? You have said you have no special roel after her death, but it certainly seems possible to me that dagon's vengeance might also include a team switch. Are you working for scum now? Because you're attacking the wrong players, imv.
occam's razor says that dp is probably the last scum, but if he's not there are going to be a lot of new info coming around. If he doesn't have a night action that means that ksen lied about his track, lynch all liars. If he flips as the doc it means that mantis lied about her role, lynch all liars. If mantis lied about being the doc she's not town and therefore athene lied about her view of mantis, lynch all liars and their gods. If he's scum and the game doesn't end that means most likely that you're not compatible with towns win condition and you have to go.

As for me switching sides if ob died, that would be insane, the two night penalty with no night chat is the worst penalty I've ever seen for one players death, to give scum an extra teammate on top of that would make me demand aza's game mod card. He would have disqualified himself from ever gettting to run another game if he balanced a game that badly. and I already think this game is a bit out of whack.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:01 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
b.ternarius wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:
r.c wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:I'm kind of wondering if athene is still town. That sounds an awful lot like a recruit to me, combined with her views of dead people it's really making me wonder.

Athene, r.c. was on you list as most likely to be scum, why did you view i.c. instead?
If the scum have a don, then town must have a seer right? None of the dead players were seer. I don't see how anyone else could be the seer.
I'm not saying she wasn't the seer, I'm saying that I'm finding problems in her story right now.

Today we obviously lynch dp, if he doesn't have a night action we lynch ksen tomorrow. If he's the doc, we are probably screwed but mantis, athene and b.tern will need to be lynched.
You aren't making sense. Why is there any need to lynch me? Especially if I agree to take out any remaining possible scum tonight?

What do we know of the effect on your role of oblivion dieing except what you told us? You have said you have no special roel after her death, but it certainly seems possible to me that dagon's vengeance might also include a team switch. Are you working for scum now? Because you're attacking the wrong players, imv.
occam's razor says that dp is probably the last scum, but if he's not there are going to be a lot of new info coming around. If he doesn't have a night action that means that ksen lied about his track, lynch all liars. If he flips as the doc it means that mantis lied about her role, lynch all liars. If mantis lied about being the doc she's not town and therefore athene lied about her view of mantis, lynch all liars and their gods. If he's scum and the game doesn't end that means most likely that you're not compatible with towns win condition and you have to go.

As for me switching sides if ob died, that would be insane, the two night penalty with no night chat is the worst penalty I've ever seen for one players death, to give scum an extra teammate on top of that would make me demand aza's game mod card. He would have disqualified himself from ever gettting to run another game if he balanced a game that badly. and I already think this game is a bit out of whack.
Your scenario has ksen, mantis, Athene, and me all lieing about our roles and therefore our alignment. How many scum do you think there are in the game, anyway?

You switching sides is no more insane than your proposal of five scum and an sk.

My win condition has no effect on town's win condition or scum's win condition. I just need to survive to the end. My win condition is compatible with Town's win condition if town wants it to be.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:02 pm

Also, if Atene was not town, why did she out my role?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:07 pm

Come to think of it, Athene, why did you out my role when it was obvious to you that I killed charlou, scum, and the other players I killed looked scummy, and therefor I was playing in alignment with town goals?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:08 pm

read it again btern. I'm not saying there are 5 scum. I'm saying that if he's not the scum we have several options of what's going to happen. Like if he flips the doc it means that ksen was telling the truth and is town but mantis is still lying. I would still like to know why if we do have a doc they weren't on ob on night 3. it makes perfect sense that they were on athene last night. killing ob then popping the seer the next night is exactly what I expected scum to do when I saw ob was dead. So that part of mantis's story makes sense, but I'd like her to answer the questions up thread.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:16 pm

Okay, I think I get what you're saying, but I do want to hear from Athene, DP and mantis before making any decisions about a lynch or about my proposed night kill.

The fact remains that I can help town win without screwing up my own win condition, at least as I read my role. Calling for lynching me tomorrow isn't going to make me a happy collaborator.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by b.ternarius » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:18 pm

And let's not forget about r.c., either.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:29 pm

athene if you knew b.tern was an indie and the vig why this post? Something really odd is going on with athene.
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 97#p911505
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:30 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:I'm kind of wondering if athene is still town. That sounds an awful lot like a recruit to me, combined with her views of dead people it's really making me wonder.

Athene, r.c. was on you list as most likely to be scum, why did you view i.c. instead?
Yes that's right. I got recruited and decided to blab about it on the thread. Get out.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:33 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:Also don't lovers die with each other? so wouldn't b.tern die with you instead of live and get to choose a new worshipper? Something smells about your stories.
Paraphrasing so as not to get godkilled. I am bonded to b.tern, if she dies I will go crazy and commit suicide.

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