The Innsmouth Look game thread.

[charlou]

errr, Zig ... I was following you until this:

##Unvote##

##Vote b.ternarius##

Why the sudden vote change, please?


Odd you haven't comment on this, ob.

[irretating]

Zigmen, please explain your meltdown moment yesterday. And your vote switch, too.

[irretating]

I wondered about the kill. sounds kinda SK-ish, but it's hard to say with only one night kill to evaluate.

Ironclad's mafia experience is solely ratskep I think. the question makes sense from that perspective.

And what do you think about Irre's being blocked, given the kill of Linus?

Would Scum target such a suspicious player?

Can you see what I'm getting at?

See, linus wasn't such a suspicious player. Apart from you and couple others, most people thought he wasn't a good lynch prospect. So, what are you getting at? Your arrival in day 2 is a WIFOM fest.

Oblivion, how come you are buying into it?

[r.c]

No strong evidence to go by. So purely going by the process of elimination and some instinct, I have my Fos on the following players

b.tern
Zigmen
Mantis
Dp

I'm going to vote Mantis for now.
##vote Mantis##

[Athene]

Oblivion does tend to offer herself up for lynch if she thinks that her presence is creating too much WIFOM and that WIFOM will just get worse as the game wears on. I'm sure she will answer your question herself, but my putting down a vote on her, combined with her being on the top of linus' scum list and linus' subsequent NK would be the reasons I would suspect.

Question for those who know zigmen's game really well here and on TR: does he ever do meltdowns, and if so ever as scum? I am wondering about him. Last game he was town and he was locked onto me (I was scum). I turned the tables on him and made a case for him being scummy, which UT (who was an indie) also signed on to, and he was lynched. This game, I locked onto him on day 1 (and this game I'm town, yes I see the problem with being believed, but bear with me) he did a weird semi-meltdown, getting overwrought with my supposed character assassination of him (even though oblivion was the one who pointed out he trolley tracks, I only agreed with her). And now he's AWOL again. I'm putting this out there to be considered, because so far it seems only I have found him scummy.

He had a mini-one in the TR elfquest game where he was all ''oh woe, Athene hates me and wants to see me dead'', not his exact words but close enough. He was town in that game. I can't remember seeing a scum zig do a meltdown.

[Mantisdreamz]

I really hate it when people pull that crap Ob. Now we're going to spend a bunch of time talking about that to the exclusion of other things. Like whether or not irre is pinging a bit so far today for anyone else? both her quick vote flip and this post.

The description seems like you were blocked by town

Well that makes me sad, because that means a townie thought I was scum

I don't know if it's the playfulness or the "no, really, I'm innocent" about it that bugs, but this really made me pause.

(just writing as i read)

Ut - I don't see why this would bug you, I'd feel the same way. Irre was definitely not looking scummy 1st day, so i fail also, to see a reason why she might have been blocked. we sure this is a town role blocker???

[Mantisdreamz]

because I became a distraction yesterday/last night. I'm not dead set on being lynched today, but if I'm of that much concern I do not want to be around anywhere near endgame.

I really don't think you're of concern right now. if anything, it's just the 1st day change in style that might be concerning. but not nearly enough to warrant a lynch.. at this point.

[Feck]

I think this game needs some kind of oomph in it, so any town triangulation would be a good thing. Feck is not around, it seems. By rights, b.tern should be lynched for her vote and posts yesterday, but shit that lets dp and ksen off the hook, not even voting.

Strangely at 3:58 am I wasn't around Irre .... sorry for leaving the game without any 'oomph'

[Mantisdreamz]

Mantis seems to be in the process of changing her game play on here, to more resemble TR's. Which means she comes across as more detached and tentative. I don't have a good read on her. It would be interesting to put her under lynch pressure to get more out of her. Although, her first post whiteknighting linus would be sloppy scum play from her, and I know she's better at scum than that. Gut feel is town.

I'm not seeing the detached, tentative thing. I think her game has in some ways gotten more decisive. I think I need to reread her posts from day 1.

if it does look like detachment, it's only because of my work schedule iow, i have only a small window of opportunity to contribute

[charlou]

I never see you as a big contributor, mantis, and you're always an enigma from my perspective, so unless you do something really overt (don't recall a time this has happened) I tend to keep a watch on you, rarely finding anything concrete to go on and thus not much to say about you one way or the other. It's not distrust or trust, just and odd kind of acceptance that I simply find you elusive to read ... and I'm not the first person to say as much.

[Mantisdreamz]

##Unvote##

##Vote b.ternarius##

zig, why didn't you explain the reasoning for this? you must have known that we'd question you

[Mantisdreamz]

I never see you as a big contributor, mantis, and you're always an enigma from my perspective, so unless you do something really overt (don't recall a time this has happened) I tend to keep a watch on you, rarely finding anything concrete to go on and thus not much to say about you one way or the other. It's not distrust or trust, just and odd kind of acceptance that I simply find you elusive to read ... and I'm not the first person to say as much.

well maybe we should try this triangulation thing? because, mostly I'm getting town vibes off Irre, UT, I think you, Charlou. Ironclad's whimsical posts look townish too.

Mostly I'm concerned about Athene, Feck, maybe r.c

Ob seems to be going back to her usual style, which I feel most comfortable with (Ob - my opinion... you do well posting your thoughts as they come)

DP' went on to make a case over Irre... his retraction of it seemed genuine

ksen - don't have many concerns yet... seems town

crumple, no read

Zigmen is Zigmen and tough to read -- he seems to pick out certain things and sticks to them (the NK thing with Linus). Just like how I got semi paranoid about him posting about 'The Seer' as opposed to others wordings of 'a seer'.... but it's all just theories that can end up tainting your view. I think Zig is a paranoid town player overall.

b.ternarius, i am on the fence about. There are several of her posts that look suspicious, and several that don't.

[Athene]

Is ok DP. Who are your main suspects so far?

##unvote dp##

B. Tern, ksen and zigmen at the moment, but not based on much more than gut feelings and agreeing with other people's opinions, I'll give it a fresh read tomorrow and see if I come up with anything better.

3am here, and work at 9, so goodnight from me.

of your list, the one who pings the most to me is ksen.

Now that the night kill is there for evaluation, my major concerns are ksen (being too quiet), athene (being too helpful and analytical), irre (due to being blocked, and the kill not being unambiguously a scum kill), and Charlou because I'm trying to figure out why I think she's town, besides other players I think are town agreeing with her.

feck and b.tern are falling a bit on my scumdar. If Irre turns out to be town, then my concerns about feck will shoot back up, though.

Why are you linking Irre and Feck together?

After reviewing day 1, Feck is probably my biggest concern, also crumple who I'm not really getting a sense of in the game. I'm still not completely happy with b.tern but I'm wondering if I'm focussing on her for the reasons I focus on praying at times.

I've grouped UT, Ksen and Mantis together in my iffy pile.

I have irre and r.c as towinsh.

Everone else is somewhere between iffy and townish.

[Athene]

I never see you as a big contributor, mantis, and you're always an enigma from my perspective, so unless you do something really overt (don't recall a time this has happened) I tend to keep a watch on you, rarely finding anything concrete to go on and thus not much to say about you one way or the other. It's not distrust or trust, just and odd kind of acceptance that I simply find you elusive to read ... and I'm not the first person to say as much.

well maybe we should try this triangulation thing? because, mostly I'm getting town vibes off Irre, UT, I think you, Charlou. Ironclad's whimsical posts look townish too.

Mostly I'm concerned about Athene, Feck, maybe r.c

Ob seems to be going back to her usual style, which I feel most comfortable with (Ob - my opinion... you do well posting your thoughts as they come)

DP' went on to make a case over Irre... his retraction of it seemed genuine

ksen - don't have many concerns yet... seems town

crumple, no read

Zigmen is Zigmen and tough to read -- he seems to pick out certain things and sticks to them (the NK thing with Linus). Just like how I got semi paranoid about him posting about 'The Seer' as opposed to others wordings of 'a seer'.... but it's all just theories that can end up tainting your view. I think Zig is a paranoid town player overall.

b.ternarius, i am on the fence about. There are several of her posts that look suspicious, and several that don't.

r.c? Any particular reason

Agree about ob, I'm happier with her today then I was yesterday.

Both you and I aren't getting a read on crumple, do you think it would be a good idea to focus on him today?

[Mantisdreamz]

I never see you as a big contributor, mantis, and you're always an enigma from my perspective, so unless you do something really overt (don't recall a time this has happened) I tend to keep a watch on you, rarely finding anything concrete to go on and thus not much to say about you one way or the other. It's not distrust or trust, just and odd kind of acceptance that I simply find you elusive to read ... and I'm not the first person to say as much.

well maybe we should try this triangulation thing? because, mostly I'm getting town vibes off Irre, UT, I think you, Charlou. Ironclad's whimsical posts look townish too.

Mostly I'm concerned about Athene, Feck, maybe r.c

Ob seems to be going back to her usual style, which I feel most comfortable with (Ob - my opinion... you do well posting your thoughts as they come)

DP' went on to make a case over Irre... his retraction of it seemed genuine

ksen - don't have many concerns yet... seems town

crumple, no read

Zigmen is Zigmen and tough to read -- he seems to pick out certain things and sticks to them (the NK thing with Linus). Just like how I got semi paranoid about him posting about 'The Seer' as opposed to others wordings of 'a seer'.... but it's all just theories that can end up tainting your view. I think Zig is a paranoid town player overall.

b.ternarius, i am on the fence about. There are several of her posts that look suspicious, and several that don't.

r.c? Any particular reason

Agree about ob, I'm happier with her today then I was yesterday.

Both you and I aren't getting a read on crumple, do you think it would be a good idea to focus on him today?

maybe. But the whole thing with him is that he's been a silent player. I can't recall many posts from him. So it's one of those scenarios where we ask ourselves, do we lynch the silent player because of a lack of read...?

Why do you find UT iffy?

r.c - i think i might have to retract because after looking at his posts from this day and lasts, there's nothing really suspicious there.

of everyone, I'm still mostly wondering about Feck, so ##vote Feck##


just a note - the single gunshot wound to Linus does sound suspiciously like an SK/vig