The Innsmouth Look game thread.

[Athene]

If it's opportunism, trying to shut it down and send the opportunists elsewhere is not protown.

happy with my vote for now.

This still doesn't make sense. Thoughts anyone?

It doesn't? You're the one who labeled it opportunism.

It looked to me like you were positing opportunism = scum taking advantage of the noise to blend in and possibly get a townie lynched, assuming Linus is town.

In fact, b.t's post could be a classic.

Shutting it down before they expose themselves in the effort is not protown.

You're suggesting that even though Linus wasn't pinging for me, and even though I wasn't getting an anti-town vibe from his post, I shouldn't have shared this and for me to do so was not pro-town and an attempt to shut down discussion. That makes no sense.

[oblivion]

Athene's reaction seems off to me.

Even though you guys normally have this kind of fight at the beginning of games you both are in?

meh. this isn't our normal squabbling. not yet, anyway. the game day is young.

[oblivion]

If it's opportunism, trying to shut it down and send the opportunists elsewhere is not protown.

happy with my vote for now.

This still doesn't make sense. Thoughts anyone?

It doesn't? You're the one who labeled it opportunism.

It looked to me like you were positing opportunism = scum taking advantage of the noise to blend in and possibly get a townie lynched, assuming Linus is town.

In fact, b.t's post could be a classic.

Shutting it down before they expose themselves in the effort is not protown.

You're suggesting that even though Linus wasn't pinging for me, and even though I wasn't getting an anti-town vibe from his post, I shouldn't have shared this and for me to do so was not pro-town and an attempt to shut down discussion. That makes no sense.

not what I was suggesting. I initially just thought your post was was fluffy and a bit white-knight-ish. then you brought up opportunism. And if you think there is opportunism going on in the Linus discussion, you've not exactly been all over it.

What did you think of b.t's vote-post?

[oblivion]

hmm

[irretating]

Morning folks. This game I'm also going old school. I'm even taking notes. Be back after the school run with my analysis.

[Athene]

If it's opportunism, trying to shut it down and send the opportunists elsewhere is not protown.

happy with my vote for now.

This still doesn't make sense. Thoughts anyone?

It doesn't? You're the one who labeled it opportunism.

It looked to me like you were positing opportunism = scum taking advantage of the noise to blend in and possibly get a townie lynched, assuming Linus is town.

In fact, b.t's post could be a classic.

Shutting it down before they expose themselves in the effort is not protown.

You're suggesting that even though Linus wasn't pinging for me, and even though I wasn't getting an anti-town vibe from his post, I shouldn't have shared this and for me to do so was not pro-town and an attempt to shut down discussion. That makes no sense.

not what I was suggesting. I initially just thought your post was was fluffy and a bit white-knight-ish. then you brought up opportunism. And if you think there is opportunism going on in the Linus discussion, you've not exactly been all over it.

What did you think of b.t's vote-post?

Ok, it's my opportunist comment that you feel is trying to shut down discussion. I don't know, it seems not giving opportunists a safe comfy place to park their behinds early in the game is not the worst thing to do in the world.

b.t doesn't appear to be voting for linus because he think's he's scum - more because linus is hogging all the attention - and that is plainly not true.

[oblivion]

This still doesn't make sense. Thoughts anyone?

It doesn't? You're the one who labeled it opportunism.

It looked to me like you were positing opportunism = scum taking advantage of the noise to blend in and possibly get a townie lynched, assuming Linus is town.

In fact, b.t's post could be a classic.

Shutting it down before they expose themselves in the effort is not protown.

You're suggesting that even though Linus wasn't pinging for me, and even though I wasn't getting an anti-town vibe from his post, I shouldn't have shared this and for me to do so was not pro-town and an attempt to shut down discussion. That makes no sense.

not what I was suggesting. I initially just thought your post was was fluffy and a bit white-knight-ish. then you brought up opportunism. And if you think there is opportunism going on in the Linus discussion, you've not exactly been all over it.

What did you think of b.t's vote-post?

Ok, it's my opportunist comment that you feel is trying to shut down discussion. I don't know, it seems not giving opportunists a safe comfy place to park their behinds early in the game is not the worst thing to do in the world.

Giving them a bit of rope, and then lynching them for going after the comfy place is a better thing to do IMO.

b.t doesn't appear to be voting for linus because he think's he's scum - more because linus is hogging all the attention - and that is plainly not true.

Would you call that opportunism?

[Athene]

You're suggesting that even though Linus wasn't pinging for me, and even though I wasn't getting an anti-town vibe from his post, I shouldn't have shared this and for me to do so was not pro-town and an attempt to shut down discussion. That makes no sense.

not what I was suggesting. I initially just thought your post was was fluffy and a bit white-knight-ish. then you brought up opportunism. And if you think there is opportunism going on in the Linus discussion, you've not exactly been all over it.

What did you think of b.t's vote-post?

Ok, it's my opportunist comment that you feel is trying to shut down discussion. I don't know, it seems not giving opportunists a safe comfy place to park their behinds early in the game is not the worst thing to do in the world.

Giving them a bit of rope, and then lynching them for going after the comfy place is a better thing to do IMO.

Which gives you a lot of mislynches because townies do that too.

Would you call that opportunism?

It could be.

[Zigmen]

Linus, to be fair, i don't give a crap about your choice for mayor nor your reasoning.

I am spooked that you had "NK" on the brain when you spoke about the survivability of noobs.

Sure, you backtracked out of it with a calm tone but, at the end of the day, I wonder why your brain went directly to NKs.

Would a Town player be thinking in terms of noobs surviving NKs? Or would a Town player just think about noobs surviving in general?

That's why vote is on you.

[oblivion]

You're suggesting that even though Linus wasn't pinging for me, and even though I wasn't getting an anti-town vibe from his post, I shouldn't have shared this and for me to do so was not pro-town and an attempt to shut down discussion. That makes no sense.

not what I was suggesting. I initially just thought your post was was fluffy and a bit white-knight-ish. then you brought up opportunism. And if you think there is opportunism going on in the Linus discussion, you've not exactly been all over it.

What did you think of b.t's vote-post?

Ok, it's my opportunist comment that you feel is trying to shut down discussion. I don't know, it seems not giving opportunists a safe comfy place to park their behinds early in the game is not the worst thing to do in the world.

Giving them a bit of rope, and then lynching them for going after the comfy place is a better thing to do IMO.

Which gives you a lot of mislynches because townies do that too.

Would you call that opportunism?

It could be.

yeah, you do have tob sort the false positives.

[oblivion]

you're giving me fits, Athene.

[Athene]

I'm sure there is medication for that.

I otoh feel a bit happier about you being town.

[Linus]

Linus, to be fair, i don't give a crap about your choice for mayor nor your reasoning.

I am spooked that you had "NK" on the brain when you spoke about the survivability of noobs.

Sure, you backtracked out of it with a calm tone but, at the end of the day, I wonder why your brain went directly to NKs.

Would a Town player be thinking in terms of noobs surviving NKs? Or would a Town player just think about noobs surviving in general?

That's why vote is on you.

I think NK probability is relevant for view suggestions.

Do you have a read on anyone else?

[Athene]

Linus, do you have any reads on people?

[irretating]

OK here's my take on the game thus far, of the things that stand out:

The odds of a scum swooping with the first post, to place a mayor vote on a newish player and a seer recommendation also on a newish player, would be fairly miniscule. Linus' choices did deserve the question, but really not much more IMO. So let's look at what happened. I asked the q and thought the answer was reasonable (it's not how my mind works, but there was a reason behind his choices).

Crumple does not ask 'why vote me for mayor' when he posts after. He only asks later on after charlou questions it. Bit odd.

Diva dives in with a rubbery FoS on Linus ('is that the best you can do') then drops a mayor vote on b.tern (mutual admiration society? b.tern's vote on diva has no reasoning either). What stands out about diva is that she is clearly around while the wolves nip at Linus, but doesn't follow up. This pings, given her first post is a FoS on him, yet when she later posts it's just to banter back at DP.

Mantis' mayor vote on Linus could be a whiteknight, she also answers a question on his behalf.

r.c. seems pretty focused on me. Seems to be trying to stir the pot to get people on the alert that I might 'go after' someone. I've not played enough games with him for him to use such a meta on me IMO.

zigmen's line of questioning to Linus gets Linus talking about NK versus odds of early lynch and who will be around at endgame, then tries to twist it and drops a vote on Linus, then later shores up his vote - perhaps he is aware that the interest on Linus is dropping off and he wants to appear consistent. Major FoS on this.

athene's reaction that there's not much in the Linus thing is exactly what I thought as I read the thread. Oblivion's vote on athene looks like a fishing expedition more than anything.

oblivion's 'standouts' (linus/ksen, and athene whiteknight of linus) seem a bit of a stretch IMO. Mantis did more of a whiteknight than athene. The ksen thing is interesting, because out of linus and ksen, ksen is the one who wriggles uncomfortably under the attention from oblivion. He changes his mayor vote from oblivion to athene, which seems a bit odd.

UT's contribution of just asking oblivion about her reads on athene is not much of an input. He does consider Linus' reasoning to be consistent, so I agree with him on that. Light on start to a busy day 1 from UT.

b.tern's early mayor vote on diva, with no reasoning, then a vote dropped on Linus just stinks, because it smacks of 'well when Linus flips town I indicated he wasn't so much scummy as hogging attention on day 1'. Major FoS.

I'm happy with a lynch of b.tern or zigmen, based on posts so far.

##vote zigmen##

@@vote linus@@