Iraqi Gays Tortured

[Arse]

A prominent Iraqi human rights activist says that Iraqi militia have deployed a painful form of torture against homosexuals by closing their anuses using “Iranian gum.” … Yanar Mohammad told Alarabiya.net that, “Iraqi militias have deployed an unprecedented form of torture against homosexuals by using a very strong glue that will close their anus.”

According to her, the new substance “is known as the Ameri gum, which is an Iranian-manufactured glue that if applied to the skin, sticks to it and can only be removed by surgery. After they glue the anuses of homosexuals, they give them a drink that causes diarrhea. Since the anus is closed, the diarrhea causes death. Videos of this form of torture are being distributed on mobile cellphones in Iraq.”

According to this human rights activist, for the past 3 weeks a crackdown on homosexuals has been going on based on a religious decree that demands their death; dozens have been targeted. She says that the persecution of homosexuals is not confined to the Shiite clerics. Some Sunni leaders have also declared the death penalty for sodomy on satellite channels.”

63 People Tortured
According to Hassan from the Iraqi LGBT group in London, attacks against homosexuals have been abundant in Shiite neighborhoods, especially poor regions and remote areas such as the southern provinces and the Hurriya, Sho’la and Sadr neighborhoods in Baghdad. So far, 63 members of the group have been tortured.

Hassan also confirmed the use of “Iranian Gum” in the torture process, adding that, “I talked to many young men who have been tortured by this method. They went to the hospital for treatment and in some cases they were refused treatment.” According to Hassan, “all religious leaders, whether Sunni or Shiite, call for the eradication of homosexuals, but the Shiites are the ones who are most involved in these attacks.”

Vigilante Groups
According to newspaper reports from local news sources in Sadr City in East Baghdad, a previously unknown group “Ahl al-Haq (the followers of Truth) have stepped up the persecution of Iraqi homosexuals after the murder of a number of them in the past few days. The news sources say that, “3 lists, each with the name of 10 gay men were circulated in Sadr City for a few hours.” The lists included a quote saying, “You, prostitutes, we will punish you!”

http://iglhrc.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/ ... bt-people/

[charlou]

Fucking ... :pissed:

I cannot post anything coherent on this just now

[Arse]

I bet you all the bastards carrying out this torture think they're doing Allah's work and will get to Heaven for it, while their victims go to Hell.

[Kristie]

Fucking ... :pissed:

I cannot post anything coherent on this just now

That's exactly what I was thinking. I wanted to comment, but couldn't put my rage, frustration and lack of understing how people could be so stupid, into words.

[cowiz]

How credible is this? Has anyone found other sources of this news?

[Arse]

How credible is this? Has anyone found other sources of this news?

What's wrong with Al Arabiya as a source?

(The Iraqi Defense Ministry are also reporting attacks on gay men, as are Iraqi human rights groups, btw.)

[cowiz]

How credible is this? Has anyone found other sources of this news?

What's wrong with Al Arabiya as a source?

(The Iraqi Defense Ministry are also reporting attacks on gay men, as are Iraqi human rights groups, btw.)

Nothing, but I would like to see if anyone else is reporting this.

[Beelzebub2]

How credible is this? Has anyone found other sources of this news?

Similar articles can be found on these sites/blogs - here, here, here, here, here, here, etc.

From what can be seen they're all relying on Al Arabiya.

Here is a video clip (aired at BBC) of a young Iraqi man being forced to strip at the police stop for wearing woman's clothes.

Here, here and here some more disturbing stories can be seen.

[Arse]

The rise in violence against gays in Iraq has been quite widely reported, Pawiz. How many of them have picked up on what seems to be the latest fashion in homophobic violence as yet, I don't know, but here's a slightly older story from the BBC, dealing with similar phenomena...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8005420.stm

[al-rawandi]

A prominent Iraqi human rights activist says that Iraqi militia have deployed a painful form of torture against homosexuals by closing their anuses using “Iranian gum.” … Yanar Mohammad told Alarabiya.net that, “Iraqi militias have deployed an unprecedented form of torture against homosexuals by using a very strong glue that will close their anus.”

According to her, the new substance “is known as the Ameri gum, which is an Iranian-manufactured glue that if applied to the skin, sticks to it and can only be removed by surgery. After they glue the anuses of homosexuals, they give them a drink that causes diarrhea. Since the anus is closed, the diarrhea causes death. Videos of this form of torture are being distributed on mobile cellphones in Iraq.”

According to this human rights activist, for the past 3 weeks a crackdown on homosexuals has been going on based on a religious decree that demands their death; dozens have been targeted. She says that the persecution of homosexuals is not confined to the Shiite clerics. Some Sunni leaders have also declared the death penalty for sodomy on satellite channels.”

63 People Tortured
According to Hassan from the Iraqi LGBT group in London, attacks against homosexuals have been abundant in Shiite neighborhoods, especially poor regions and remote areas such as the southern provinces and the Hurriya, Sho’la and Sadr neighborhoods in Baghdad. So far, 63 members of the group have been tortured.

Hassan also confirmed the use of “Iranian Gum” in the torture process, adding that, “I talked to many young men who have been tortured by this method. They went to the hospital for treatment and in some cases they were refused treatment.” According to Hassan, “all religious leaders, whether Sunni or Shiite, call for the eradication of homosexuals, but the Shiites are the ones who are most involved in these attacks.”

Vigilante Groups
According to newspaper reports from local news sources in Sadr City in East Baghdad, a previously unknown group “Ahl al-Haq (the followers of Truth) have stepped up the persecution of Iraqi homosexuals after the murder of a number of them in the past few days. The news sources say that, “3 lists, each with the name of 10 gay men were circulated in Sadr City for a few hours.” The lists included a quote saying, “You, prostitutes, we will punish you!”

http://iglhrc.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/ ... bt-people/

This is precisely the irrational violence that can be expected from Islam. I am eager to hear the usual chorus of people who expect us to negotiate with people like this. Do we expect the Israelis to negotiate with people like this in their conflict? Do we expect our withdrawal from Iraq to usher in a period of peace and justice for Iraq? There is no compromise with such religiots. This is precisely what Islam prescribes for homosexuals.... torture and death.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Whether the method of torture is genuine or merely hearsay, this is still fucking sickening. I wonder how many of the torturers are repressed, closet queens themselves - they are usually the most homophobic in any society - especially one where the practice is outlawed and taboo.

[cowiz]

Thanks for the links Ghost & Ryokan

[charlou]

Whether the method of torture is genuine or merely hearsay, this is still fucking sickening. I wonder how many of the torturers are repressed, closet queens themselves - they are usually the most homophobic in any society - especially one where the practice is outlawed and taboo.

I think repressed homosexuality is irrelevent here. These are full on delusional religiously sanctioned self righteous attacks on humanity. I agree with al_rawandi, it's not something we can hope to effectively deal with other than by overruling their ludicrous theocracy and forcing them into line with humanitarian standards.


pawiz, I hoped it wasn't true, too.

[cowiz]

pawiz, I hoped it wasn't true, too.

That was my exact reason for asking

[Hermit]

This is precisely the irrational violence that can be expected from Islam. I am eager to hear the usual chorus of people who expect us to negotiate with people like this. Do we expect the Israelis to negotiate with people like this in their conflict? Do we expect our withdrawal from Iraq to usher in a period of peace and justice for Iraq? There is no compromise with such religiots. This is precisely what Islam prescribes for homosexuals.... torture and death.

No, you cannot negotiate with people of such a theocratic, medieval, unenlightened, anti-humanist mindset. They are stuck in the same morass that christianity was a few hundred years ago.

Al-Rawandi, I'd like to hear your opinion about why the vast majority of christians have jettisoned murderous crusades, witch hunts and the systematic terror of the inquisition and managed to embrace more civilised, humanitarian and generally enlightened stances instead, while so many muslims have failed to do so to this day. Also, what specifically do you think should be done about this tragedy?