Gormless Gove fucks it up big time!

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Gormless Gove fucks it up big time!

Post by Rum » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:01 am

The story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-13736501

Our gormless minister for education has fucked things up big time - possible in fact to the point where in my particular case I could have avoided redundancy.

To keep it simple, the new 'academies' programme means one out of every six secondary schools came out of the control of Local Authorities (where I worked) and got the money we used for support services (special educational needs, welfare, child psychiatry and so on) direct to them. The government clawed back that money from local authorities. It now looks like they have set in motion a clawback of £400 million more than they should have. LAs have threatened to take them to court for a 'judicial review' as it is called and the government have asked them not to while they look again at the funding.

Michael minuscule brained Gove, who pushed all this through out of totally unfounded ideological motivation is in the shit. And so he should be.

Bottom line - a good proportion of people who recently lost their jobs may well have not needed to if the U turn takes place, which looks likely.

Can I have my job back please?

On second thoughts stick it up your arse.

Oh - here's the little twat in all his glory.

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Post by AshtonBlack » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:53 am

Slash and burn government.... It does give lie to the 'theory' that the Lib-Dems are supposed to be a calming influence on the Republicans Tories.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:40 am

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Post by Rum » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:48 am

It is the combination of badly thought out policy driven in large part by the requirement to save money, in turn motivated by Tory 'small government' thinking, in turn managed by a man of such stupendous incompetence and stupidity which gets me.

Before I finished work one of my colleagues attended a meeting in London to assist in the development of policy - a so called 'consultation'. Gove was at the meeting. At one point a civil servant, on a point of policy said to Gove that the particular action they were discussing was not legally possible.

Gove apparently banged the table and said 'Don't tell me what is legally possible! I have been waiting twenty years to try this out!"

Fuckn' moran.

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Post by HomerJay » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:07 am

Gove's a shitter.

Take off health and education and Cameron's a busted flush, not a single idea.

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Post by Svartalf » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:10 pm

wait, if gove is the shit, what had the stomach to eat him first?
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:43 pm

Rum wrote:...Gove apparently banged the table and said 'Don't tell me what is legally possible! I have been waiting twenty years to try this out!" ...
But it's not all about ideology - oh noes :eddy:
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Post by Rum » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:37 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rum wrote:...Gove apparently banged the table and said 'Don't tell me what is legally possible! I have been waiting twenty years to try this out!" ...
But it's not all about ideology - oh noes :eddy:
In his case it is. Academies are de-linked from local government control (many are Labour controlled of course) and 'steered' directly from central government - the Tories of course - who say they want them to have more 'freedoms'. Double think.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:42 pm

Rum wrote:
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rum wrote:...Gove apparently banged the table and said 'Don't tell me what is legally possible! I have been waiting twenty years to try this out!" ...
But it's not all about ideology - oh noes :eddy:
In his case it is. Academies are de-linked from local government control (many are Labour controlled of course) and 'steered' directly from central government - the Tories of course - who say they want them to have more 'freedoms'. Double think.
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Post by Santa_Claus » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:10 pm

At least he is trying to fix the problems - albeit he doesn't have any choice, no money.

It seems strange to me that the education service has always been such an expensive excercise in poor performance - 99% of it is not about sending people to Mars. Just delivering information, most of which does not change from year to year..........you would have thought that after decades (plus) of trying that the Councils / Schools would have grasped at least the basics.

Must try harder...........

But to be fair, a lot of stuff the UK breeds nowadays isn't high enough on the evolutionary scale to cope with education above writing own name, in Crayon - with an X. The solution for those is training ("you put your trousers on this way up") and deploy them to combat global warming and poverty - in Africa.
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Post by MrJonno » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:33 pm

There is nothing seriously wrong with education in the UK what there are serious problems with are the pupils. Some are basically so badly brought up they are in affect brain damaged before they even a classroom. A well brought up kid will be able to stay still and quiet for at least a few minutes, have some reading ability and some concept of concentration before they take their first lesson. For those who don't you might as well put them in prison or prepare them for a life of the dole.

Thats not to say you can't bring up around these out of control kids if you through enough resources into each one individually but that sort of money doesnt exist
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:05 pm

MrJonno wrote:There is nothing seriously wrong with education in the UK what there are serious problems with are the pupils. Some are basically so badly brought up they are in affect brain damaged before they even a classroom. A well brought up kid will be able to stay still and quiet for at least a few minutes, have some reading ability and some concept of concentration before they take their first lesson. For those who don't you might as well put them in prison or prepare them for a life of the dole.

Thats not to say you can't bring up around these out of control kids if you through enough resources into each one individually but that sort of money doesnt exist
People need to get rid of the wealthy elites in education - when these are eliminated, along with their stifling attiitudes, we can build something new on the ruins of the old. I think the soft subjects need to be taken out of the education system, they are padding. The humanities need to be abandoned for all except the dumb rich. There should be a clear bias towards science and technology. The sexes should be taught in seperate schools. It is no good blaming parents or teachers when systemic failures exist at all levels. Dinners should be provided by the schools to avoid kids being given stodgy or additive laden food before a afternoons work. There should be one national school uniform - reduce the competition between schools that leaves kids regarding themselves either lifetime failures or uber-elites, rather than lifetime learners. A lot can be done by thinking it through, revolution is called for but not the kind the coalition seeks. :tup:
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Post by Feck » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:10 pm

Edumacation ..rubbish ! leave the little animals running feral in the streets and return our right to hunt with dogs .
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:19 pm

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MrJonno wrote:There is nothing seriously wrong with education in the UK what there are serious problems with are the pupils. Some are basically so badly brought up they are in affect brain damaged before they even a classroom. A well brought up kid will be able to stay still and quiet for at least a few minutes, have some reading ability and some concept of concentration before they take their first lesson. For those who don't you might as well put them in prison or prepare them for a life of the dole.

Thats not to say you can't bring up around these out of control kids if you through enough resources into each one individually but that sort of money doesnt exist
People need to get rid of the wealthy elites in education - when these are eliminated, along with their stifling attiitudes, we can build something new on the ruins of the old. I think the soft subjects need to be taken out of the education system, they are padding. The humanities need to be abandoned for all except the dumb rich. There should be a clear bias towards science and technology. The sexes should be taught in seperate schools. It is no good blaming parents or teachers when systemic failures exist at all levels. Dinners should be provided by the schools to avoid kids being given stodgy or additive laden food before a afternoons work. There should be one national school uniform - reduce the competition between schools that leaves kids regarding themselves either lifetime failures or uber-elites, rather than lifetime learners. A lot can be done by thinking it through, revolution is called for but not the kind the coalition seeks. :tup:
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:22 pm

I don't say the f arts should be abolished altogether - just be put in 'afterschool hobby status' which would allow the shallower types to focus on our amazing moral progress since world war two. :bored:
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