Does nihilism mean you have to be a miserable twat? Discuss!
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Audley Strange
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Being nihilistic myself, people often consider me miserable or joyless for not partaking in their pointless rituals and indulging in pre-proscribed "fun" activities, but what they don't seem to get is that I'm not miserable, I have a whale of a time laughing at the amount of meaningless effort they go to in order to claim they enjoy themselves as the gladly turn themselves into little exhibits of the Spectacle.
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Don't spend too much time with nihilism. There is always coffee. And when you get really old, oatmeal, and going to the toilet daily.
Where is that promised poop-o-meter?
Where is that promised poop-o-meter?
International disaster, gonna be a blaster
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
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International disaster, international disaster
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Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)
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Some people see nihilism in a negative light, I don't see it that way at all. 
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Being nihilistic doesn't mean you *have* to be a miserable twat, but it does mean you shouldn't really care. There being no intrinsic value in happiness, or anything. That said, I try to be happy, because... well, it's quite nice. Not logical, I know, but fuck it.
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No, life is not bad at all.Rum wrote: Life sucks and is pointless.
Death sucks.
But even that isn't pointless.
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It depends on who you ask and when and where you ask them. For a great many of the living things on this planet, life really sucks and is painful, lonely and (if they're lucky) short.mistermack wrote:No, life is not bad at all.Rum wrote: Life sucks and is pointless.
Death sucks.
But even that isn't pointless.
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Some of us have it pretty good though.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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This should answer all questions. 
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um, because it is spelled differently?Cunt wrote:...and now that I think of it, how is nihilism not called realism?
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Metaphysical and Mereological Nihilism are more my speed - existence doesn't exist, and anything we think we perceive is a misperception.Ironclad wrote:Are there many serious objections (counters) to the Existentialist Nihilistic world view?
* should world view be with caps?
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Well...if they enjoy it, and it's all pointless anyway, why would it matter that you're laughing at them? And, on what basis do you laugh at them, as their activities are no more or less pointless than yours?Audley Strange wrote:Being nihilistic myself, people often consider me miserable or joyless for not partaking in their pointless rituals and indulging in pre-proscribed "fun" activities, but what they don't seem to get is that I'm not miserable, I have a whale of a time laughing at the amount of meaningless effort they go to in order to claim they enjoy themselves as the gladly turn themselves into little exhibits of the Spectacle.
To the future or to the past, to a time when thought is free, when men are different from one another and do not live alone — to a time when truth exists and what is done cannot be undone: From the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother, from the age of doublethink — greetings!
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Why should it have to matter to Audley that his/her laughter matters if it is all pointless anyway?
... Twit.
I think a reference to the Brothers Karamazov would be apt here.. (if you don't know it, then sod off you ignorant twat).
... Twit.
I think a reference to the Brothers Karamazov would be apt here.. (if you don't know it, then sod off you ignorant twat).
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Apparently, the point of this thread is pointlessly pointing out the pointlessness of pointing out...
...the pointlessness of this thread and the universe in which it resides.
On other days, it just rains.
...the pointlessness of this thread and the universe in which it resides.
On other days, it just rains.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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The Net is best considered analogous to communication with disincarnate intelligences. As any neophyte would tell you. Do not invoke that which you have no facility to banish.
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Estragon: Nothing to be done.
Vladimir: I'm beginning to come round to that opinion.
Vladimir: I'm beginning to come round to that opinion.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Nothin' to do nowhere to go-a-ho
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
-Mr P
The Net is best considered analogous to communication with disincarnate intelligences. As any neophyte would tell you. Do not invoke that which you have no facility to banish.
Audley Strange
-Mr P
The Net is best considered analogous to communication with disincarnate intelligences. As any neophyte would tell you. Do not invoke that which you have no facility to banish.
Audley Strange
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