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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:54 pm

Damnit! :lay: Stop teasing me. I could really use a joint right now. :(
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by sandinista » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:03 pm

Cunt wrote:what action are you taking?
1. I generally don't discuss "actions" on the net
2. I don't trust anyone on the net (ie. I don't believe what you said, and I wouldn't expect you to believe me)
3. You sound like a pig. Who else would come up with the bright idea to turn yourself in and snitch on all your mates.
Cunt wrote:Challenge a law on a forum, and you look like a whinger
No, actually it doesn't. It makes you look like everyone else on a discussion forum...someone DISCUSSING something. :fp:
Cunt wrote:The global war on drugs will continue as long as we the people don't mind too much.
Yes, I'm sure everyone locked up for a drug office don't mind too much. double :fp: :fp:
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You're forgetting, I consider that causing harm to another animal. Different case. No sentient beings have to be killed to do drugs.
Coito ergo sum wrote:I agree, but you don't seem to agree with this all the time.
I would say that I do. Anything that doesn't cause harm to another sentient being shouldn't be dealt with criminally.
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Cunt » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:16 pm

sandinista wrote:
Cunt wrote:what action are you taking?
1. I generally don't discuss "actions" on the net
Feel free to pay tax as I have. I have been telling people about it for years, and it works. It can also be done as discreetly as smoking a joint (which you may already be doing anyway)
sandinista wrote: 2. I don't trust anyone on the net (ie. I don't believe what you said, and I wouldn't expect you to believe me)
I don't believe you not because you are here, but because you are pretty one-sided. You don't stand for anything except smashing things down.
Tell me, if you were a diabetic your whole life, would you take insulin? (remember, if you didn't, you would be choosing to be dead)
sandinista wrote: 3. You sound like a pig. Who else would come up with the bright idea to turn yourself in and snitch on all your mates.
I don't have a 'sound' on here. You can go ahead and think I am a police officer, but it does not change the facts.

I came up with the idea because it could change the law, while being respectful of the community which supports me.

Tell me, do you take full advantage of Canadian health and other public services when you need to? If you do, don't you think participating in this society requires some respect for it?
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Cunt wrote:Challenge a law on a forum, and you look like a whinger
No, actually it doesn't. It makes you look like everyone else on a discussion forum...someone DISCUSSING something. :fp:
You are correct. Discuss away. I will try to keep any possible solutions out of it, while you complain about your impotence to change anything 'Big Drugs' does to the world.
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Cunt wrote:The global war on drugs will continue as long as we the people don't mind too much.
Yes, I'm sure everyone locked up for a drug office don't mind too much. double :fp: :fp:
They obviously don't, and neither do their families. When the populace minds too much, police, tax collectors and other public servants end up hanging from trees, light-standards and bridges.

I will say it again, the global war on drugs will continue as long as the populace (not just your chosen examples) doesn't mind too much. Apathy sucks balls, but when we have PS3 and pizza delivery, you have to expect it a bit.
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Robert_S » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:11 am

If I tell the cops I'm high as fuck, they won't care as long as I'm not driving, hurting anyone, or causing a disturbance.

Except that time I was tripping balls and didn't successfully differentiate the Oakland cop from the Berkeley cop. :oops: I wonder if they ever got the walls at Alameda County Jail to stop undulating. :think:
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Ian » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:08 pm

Some news from my home state of Connecticut: the state Senate decriminalized marijuana by a 90-57 vote. The governor might even push beyond decriminalization to actual legalization.

http://www.thcfinder.com/marijuana-blog ... z1P0WZ04G5
http://ohhburn.com/2011/03/15/connectic ... marijuana/
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Audley Strange » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:31 pm

I don't think the global war in drugs has failed at all I think it has been very successful. After all think of all the funding for Black ops, the illicit profiteering of money laundering that has quietly bolstered the economy, the increase in policing and authoritarian measures to "tackle" organised criminals and the asymmetric punishments handed out to those dealing or in possession dependent on class or skin colour.
[edited to add] Not forgetting the funding of the crazy radical groups on the wrong side of the New Global War.


Yes I'd say its been very very successful.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:03 pm

Ian wrote:Some news from my home state of Connecticut: the state Senate decriminalized marijuana by a 90-57 vote. The governor might even push beyond decriminalization to actual legalization.

http://www.thcfinder.com/marijuana-blog ... marijuana/
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:07 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Ian wrote:Some news from my home state of Connecticut: the state Senate decriminalized marijuana by a 90-57 vote. The governor might even push beyond decriminalization to actual legalization.

http://www.thcfinder.com/marijuana-blog ... marijuana/
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:17 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Ian wrote:Some news from my home state of Connecticut: the state Senate decriminalized marijuana by a 90-57 vote. The governor might even push beyond decriminalization to actual legalization.

http://www.thcfinder.com/marijuana-blog ... marijuana/
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Do we got any Ratz in Connecticut? :ask:
We may, now!
How long before Greenwich, CT. becomes the weekend hangout of NYC stoners? :tea:
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Audley Strange » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:24 pm

I'm guessing that if those in power do go ahead and start licencing or legalising drugs we should be concerned as to why. I don't think after decades of ignoring all reasonable arguments to end prohibition they would just suddenly accept them.
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Ian » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:27 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote: Do we got any Ratz in Connecticut? :ask:
We may, now!
How long before Greenwich, CT. becomes the weekend hangout of NYC stoners? :tea:
If that were to literally come to pass, that might be the fastest way to get this law overturned. Greenwich is where the money is. More billionaires per capita in that town than anywhere else in the US, last I heard.
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:32 pm

Ian wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote: Do we got any Ratz in Connecticut? :ask:
We may, now!
How long before Greenwich, CT. becomes the weekend hangout of NYC stoners? :tea:
If that were to literally come to pass, that might be the fastest way to get this law overturned. Greenwich is where the money is. More billionaires per capita in that town than anywhere else in the US, last I heard.
:ask:
Probably not there though - there must be at least one shithole, penny-broke town just over the state-line that fancies making a quick buck from headshops and munchies though! :biggrin:
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Pappa » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:22 am

Audley Strange wrote:I'm guessing that if those in power do go ahead and start licencing or legalising drugs we should be concerned as to why. I don't think after decades of ignoring all reasonable arguments to end prohibition they would just suddenly accept them.
I can't see it happening any time soon, but it would be pretty easy for them to say, "Our predecessors were wrong". :dunno:

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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Mysturji » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:16 am

Pappa wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:I'm guessing that if those in power do go ahead and start licencing or legalising drugs we should be concerned as to why. I don't think after decades of ignoring all reasonable arguments to end prohibition they would just suddenly accept them.
I can't see it happening any time soon, but it would be pretty easy for them to say, "Our predecessors were wrong". :dunno:
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Re: Global war on drugs 'has failed'

Post by Audley Strange » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:38 pm

Pappa wrote:
Audley Strange wrote:I'm guessing that if those in power do go ahead and start licencing or legalising drugs we should be concerned as to why. I don't think after decades of ignoring all reasonable arguments to end prohibition they would just suddenly accept them.
I can't see it happening any time soon, but it would be pretty easy for them to say, "Our predecessors were wrong". :dunno:
Quite, a good point succinctly made.
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