Starfleet Game thread

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lol

[grit]

Well, there's no more in-thread vote counts from me, that's for sure. And probably not a lot of talk, 'cause who's gonna listen?

From the sounds of things, scum are gonna get some benefit for my bungle - maybe a town view, protection, or role-block failure or mix up. Be wary of that for the overnight. I think it would be unfair to carry it over into some other day, but I don't know zig. zig did make it sound like it would be town-specific rather than scum-specific. That is, that it would be a punishment of town rather than a boost of scum. Still, if I would otherwise be godkilled, I'd think it'd be significant enough to seriously jeopardise one town player.

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I wouldn't worry overly about zigmen's punishment... he can be quite subtle. I don't think town will actually notice what's happened, we'll find out in the game wrap.

As for in-thread vote counts and opinions, you're leaning town for me. Just my $0.02.

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it was my patented "shake trees and see what falls out" approach to mafia theory, although it's not nearly so effective when I cannot be pithy, abrupt and monosyllabically obnoxious at the precisely correct moment.

the jury is still out regarding some of my other foses and observations. there came a point when I thought the majority of the scum team might have exposed themselves, reminiscent of day one of the Elfquest game. Perhaps it's a chimera, though It should be instructive to note when and where barriers were initially erected to prevent DennyB's lynch. the possibility of a day 1 bussing cannot be ignored either.

I feel optimistic about this game. we need to comb through the thread with a degree of scrupulousness and search for interesting patterns. Unfortunately, I'm totally exhausted. I'll review the material after a few hours of shut-eye. somnambulistic posting is potentially unproductive.

[Mantisdreamz]

grit - too bad. you were playing an awesome scum game.

I haven't quite lost the kingmaker game yet. We'll see. Sorry about the mess there and here though. The only reason I tried to quickly edit here was to spare the established game there, but the TR GM would have nothing of that.

I guess I'm still alive for Day 2 here? I'm gonna have to fight very hard not to see a certain player as complete scum, and vote accordingly. Sorry, Aza. Seems like Aza has some Ratz prejudice. But if allowed to live, I'll try to keep it out of the game, that and my natural death-wish.

True enough. I have no clue who the remainder scum is (kingmaker game).

No need to apologize... it was just a silly error, you got a little copy and pasting happy I do the same thing when playing games... I have a text editor up in my browser all the time where I dump all my mafia stuff into. Whether Aza made a good decision or not.. well, that doesn't matter now. I've never modded a game before but I imagine the GM makes a decision, and then we discuss later whether or not it was the best decision or not. They kind of have to make decisions of the fly

So ya. Like you said on TR - this just added a little butter to the 1st day. Catching up and reading it all was entertaining it got sorted in the end. Still have to read back to see who started that lynch on Denny. gib, I believe. But, who took it further will be of interest. And who may have been reluctant will also be of interest. This is the great thing about getting scum on the 1st day... puts town in a good position

[Mantisdreamz]

and I now have to agree and retract on my statement that UT seems town. Pointing out the error - might have been a gleeful moment for him, if he was scum. Either way, it doesn't clear him

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and I now have to agree and retract on my statement that UT seems town. Pointing out the error - might have been a gleeful moment for him, if he was scum. Either way, it doesn't clear him

True. IIRC both me and UT posted that we thought denny was townish. Diva also FoS'd denny but didn't follow-through with a vote IIRC (saying she wasn't going to vote just to save her skin).

Unless I missed something major, I didn't see anyone impede the bandwagon, though it's likely going to be argued tomorrow that I did, by keeping my vote on ksen until I voted for grit.

I think the non-voters in the important phase (the period just before grit posted the link) are worthy of considerable scrutiny tomorrow. Mantis, Adenosine, Diva.

[Mantisdreamz]

and I now have to agree and retract on my statement that UT seems town. Pointing out the error - might have been a gleeful moment for him, if he was scum. Either way, it doesn't clear him

True. IIRC both me and UT posted that we thought denny was townish. Diva also FoS'd denny but didn't follow-through with a vote IIRC (saying she wasn't going to vote just to save her skin).

Unless I missed something major, I didn't see anyone impede the bandwagon, though it's likely going to be argued tomorrow that I did, by keeping my vote on ksen until I voted for grit.

I think the non-voters in the important phase (the period just before grit posted the link) are worthy of considerable scrutiny tomorrow. Mantis, Adenosine, Diva.

After reading it all, I probably would have voted for ksen... still am unsure about Diva, though

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^ the only reason I changed my mind off ksen was, he got lynched in the pirates game for doing the 'if xx flips town I'm going to come after you' thing, and in pirates he was town

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and I now have to agree and retract on my statement that UT seems town. Pointing out the error - might have been a gleeful moment for him, if he was scum. Either way, it doesn't clear him

precisely my concern. perhaps it is only my suggestibility, but it did indeed look gleeful.

Uselesstwit's participation was low and late, and it seems that his most salient contributions were to defend Denny and to point up the writeboard link.

[Mantisdreamz]

^ the only reason I changed my mind off ksen was, he got lynched in the pirates game for doing the 'if xx flips town I'm going to come after you' thing, and in pirates he was town

I actually didn't notice that post of his. It could be him using the same strategy as both town/scum in order to make himself less readable. Not that I want to put any wifom against him... but, him saying that doesn't make him seem townish, to me

[Mantisdreamz]

and I now have to agree and retract on my statement that UT seems town. Pointing out the error - might have been a gleeful moment for him, if he was scum. Either way, it doesn't clear him

precisely my concern. perhaps it is only my suggestibility, but it did indeed look gleeful.

Uselesstwit's participation was low and late, and it seems that his most salient contributions were to defend Denny and to point up the writeboard link.

he also made a point of stating that he still had to read his PM role

[grit]

BTW, Mantis, I type Euro (or try to), but I'm actually in the American South. It's a Confederate thing.

How many Romulan scum we figure are left for a zig game this size, 2, with maybe a stray indie or two?

Yesterday I ended the day with my lynch vote on ksen. Earlier I listed my top picks as 1) Denny, 2) diva, 3) irre, 4) bili, 5) Aden.

FWIW, I've revised my list to 1) diva, 2) Aden, 3) Aza, 4) Mantis, 5) ksen

I like gib, irre, and UT as town.

Most of my new assessment is gut reads in regards to the particular way the vote hops and posts played out on me and Denny. I'm rightly still questionable to most of you, so maybe just think about it a bit if you're looking there and drawing your own conclusions.

I don't like that diva only chose the easy vote, and after unvoting, didn't go back to Feck or anyone else. It seemed very Dennyesque to me when combined with earlier posts.

And to Aden, yes I would like to hear more on your Mayor switch from gib to oblivion.

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I have UT as town, too. Only because I know he would never try to shift the heat off a scum buddy if he was scum. I also have gib as town. And I'm leaning townish on grit and diva. Diva because, if she were scum and it was two scum bandwagons going, no way would she stay so quiet. It wouldn't have taken a massive effort to get me lynched today. I haven't seen anything scummy about Ob today, but doubts will niggle at me. I think it will be instructive just how today's denny bandwagon is analysed and what conclusions various people are trying to push. Bili is an unknown quantity but if he's scum it was a masterful bus of denny.

My scum pile is mantis, adenosine, Aza. Ksen is in my 'meh' pile.

Far out. Feck didn't figure in today at all. Scum pile for him, too.

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^ edit to add: by 'today' I mean my Australian today. Feck did figure in the game day earlier on.