A.C. Grayling, Dawkins and more Launch Private University

[Coito ergo sum]

Humanities ..so nothing Useful at all then .

Yes, bollocks like -

Philosophy, history, law, languages, literature, art, music, religion (and the lack thereof)....all quite "useless..."

Damn right - we know how many angels sit on the head of the pin and the remainder is pub talk.

The lack of a decent humanities education is what allows Sarah Palin to be unapologetic and insistent up on the "fact" that one of the most famous names of the American Revolution, Paul Revere, "warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free."

So much is so fundamentally wrong with her statement that it is almost frightening. It's "not even wrong." It's embarrassing. The first order of business with education is to provide a basic level of human knowledge such that a person ought not to generally embarrass themselves like that. After that, we ought to get into 'useful" stuff like the latest new trade terms in marketing and finance, and the newest trick to balance numbers on spreadsheets.

[Svartalf]

Coito, stop making sense, I'll hate myself next time I must insult you over your abominable and indefensible positions about some other subject.

[Coito ergo sum]

Consider that it may well be that my positions are neither abominable, nor indefensible, and that your insults are simply the ravings of a madman.

[Atheist-Lite]

Consider that it may well be that my positions are neither abominable, nor indefensible, and that your insults are simply the ravings of a madman.

See - pub talk, do you two want to continue this debate outside?

[Svartalf]

Shut up philistine... humanities are the difference between a real human being and a beast who will fail the test of the gom jabbar, well, humanities and Bene Gesserit training... but the latter does include the former.

[Atheist-Lite]

Shut up philistine... humanities are the difference between a real human being and a beast who will fail the test of the gom jabbar, well, humanities and Bene Gesserit training... but the latter does include the former.

I'm being insulted to defend your position on the humanities. Just shows what tosh it all is doesn't it?

[Coito ergo sum]

Consider that it may well be that my positions are neither abominable, nor indefensible, and that your insults are simply the ravings of a madman.

See - pub talk, do you two want to continue this debate outside?

[Coito ergo sum]

Shut up philistine... humanities are the difference between a real human being and a beast who will fail the test of the gom jabbar, well, humanities and Bene Gesserit training... but the latter does include the former.

I'm being insulted to defend your position on the humanities. Just shows what tosh it all is doesn't it?

Tosh?

[Atheist-Lite]

[Atheist-Lite]

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I heard A.C. Grayling on the radio earlier. He was saying: -

1. That there would be scholarships for outstanding students (20% of students on a scholarship initially - hopefully to rise to over 30% within a few years.)
2. That scholarships would either be full, or would bring the fees payable down to the average for state-run universities (about £7,00p.a.)
3. That entry would be based on a proven academic record (a minimum of 3 As at A level, or equivalent) and that all students applying that meet this minimum would be interviewed.
4. On his reasons for establishing this project, he said that recent, and ongoing, cuts in the higher education budget, along with a change towards funding for vocational and technological subjects, meant that humanities subjects were in decline.
5. The college will be a non-profit-making charitable organisation and funded by both fees and donations, with any surplus income being reinvested in the scholarship program.

Just thought that might interest a few.

[Bella Fortuna]

Coito, stop making sense, I'll hate myself next time I must insult you over your abominable and indefensible positions about some other subject.

Consider that it may well be that my positions are neither abominable, nor indefensible, and that your insults are simply the ravings of a madman.

This exchange made me

[Coito ergo sum]

Coito, stop making sense, I'll hate myself next time I must insult you over your abominable and indefensible positions about some other subject.

Consider that it may well be that my positions are neither abominable, nor indefensible, and that your insults are simply the ravings of a madman.

This exchange made me

Fact!

[PsychoSerenity]

I heard A.C. Grayling on the radio earlier. He was saying: -

1. That there would be scholarships for outstanding students (20% of students on a scholarship initially - hopefully to rise to over 30% within a few years.)
2. That scholarships would either be full, or would bring the fees payable down to the average for state-run universities (about £7,00p.a.)
3. That entry would be based on a proven academic record (a minimum of 3 As at A level, or equivalent) and that all students applying that meet this minimum would be interviewed.
4. On his reasons for establishing this project, he said that recent, and ongoing, cuts in the higher education budget, along with a change towards funding for vocational and technological subjects, meant that humanities subjects were in decline.
5. The college will be a non-profit-making charitable organisation and funded by both fees and donations, with any surplus income being reinvested in the scholarship program.

Just thought that might interest a few.

Interesting, I thought there might be something like this - and it seems fair enough if that's the way they want to go - but personally I'd still rather see more investment in internet education freely available to everyone.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I heard A.C. Grayling on the radio earlier. He was saying: -

1. That there would be scholarships for outstanding students (20% of students on a scholarship initially - hopefully to rise to over 30% within a few years.)
2. That scholarships would either be full, or would bring the fees payable down to the average for state-run universities (about £7,00p.a.)
3. That entry would be based on a proven academic record (a minimum of 3 As at A level, or equivalent) and that all students applying that meet this minimum would be interviewed.
4. On his reasons for establishing this project, he said that recent, and ongoing, cuts in the higher education budget, along with a change towards funding for vocational and technological subjects, meant that humanities subjects were in decline.
5. The college will be a non-profit-making charitable organisation and funded by both fees and donations, with any surplus income being reinvested in the scholarship program.

Just thought that might interest a few.

Interesting, I thought there might be something like this - and it seems fair enough if that's the way they want to go - but personally I'd still rather see more investment in internet education freely available to everyone.

Why does it have to be either/or?

I am a little ambivalent to this, to be honest. I am also wondering what they will be looking for in their interviews... "Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the catholic church?"