The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

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The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:12 pm

Could maybe even let them re-open a Death Camp or 2, and just see how they get on this time - I am sure they have learnt there lesson :tup:
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Re: The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

Post by Atheist-Lite » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:20 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:Could maybe even let them re-open a Death Camp or 2, and just see how they get on this time - I am sure they have learnt there lesson :tup:
So long as you don't call them nazis they are not only forgiven but flourishing in the modern world. It's the name people don't like. Parse the ideaology and repackage it with the right jargon and put it out as a questionaire - you'll see most people are defacto nazis underneath....they might not want to kill jews but they all have a minority they despise whether it be chavs, the disabled, the new poor, the new rich and so on. :coffee:
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Re: The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

Post by Ian » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:23 pm

I don't know if the statute of limitations has run out yet. Most of the world seems to have forgiven the Vikings for their plunder. I doubt the descendants of Carthage are still pissed at Rome. I'm not sure how people in China, Central Asia and Russia feel about the Mongol armies, but I'll bet there's at least some forgiveness there by now. The history of the Japanese Empire still seems to be a sore spot with many Chinese though, and that happened around the same time as the Nazis. So maybe a few more generations are needed.

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Post by Rum » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:34 pm

Ian wrote:I don't know if the statute of limitations has run out yet. Most of the world seems to have forgiven the Vikings for their plunder. I doubt the descendants of Carthage are still pissed at Rome. I'm not sure how people in China, Central Asia and Russia feel about the Mongol armies, but I'll bet there's at least some forgiveness there by now. The history of the Japanese Empire still seems to be a sore spot with many Chinese though, and that happened around the same time as the Nazis. So maybe a few more generations are needed.
If the Irish are anything to go by the statute of limitations is a minimum 400 years!

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Post by klr » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:09 pm

Rum wrote:
Ian wrote:I don't know if the statute of limitations has run out yet. Most of the world seems to have forgiven the Vikings for their plunder. I doubt the descendants of Carthage are still pissed at Rome. I'm not sure how people in China, Central Asia and Russia feel about the Mongol armies, but I'll bet there's at least some forgiveness there by now. The history of the Japanese Empire still seems to be a sore spot with many Chinese though, and that happened around the same time as the Nazis. So maybe a few more generations are needed.
If the Irish are anything to go by the statute of limitations is a minimum 400 years!
842 years and counting actually. :coffee:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:23 pm

Ian wrote:I don't know if the statute of limitations has run out yet. Most of the world seems to have forgiven the Vikings for their plunder. I doubt the descendants of Carthage are still pissed at Rome. I'm not sure how people in China, Central Asia and Russia feel about the Mongol armies, but I'll bet there's at least some forgiveness there by now. The history of the Japanese Empire still seems to be a sore spot with many Chinese though, and that happened around the same time as the Nazis. So maybe a few more generations are needed.
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Re: The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

Post by Ian » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:25 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Vikings do not ask your forgiveness, and therefore forgiveness is not accepted.

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Indeed. As a descendant of Vikings, I should have realized that. :twisted:

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:41 pm

Ian wrote:Indeed. As a descendant of Vikings, I should have realized that. :twisted:
We must be related then.

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Post by Ian » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:48 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:
Ian wrote:Indeed. As a descendant of Vikings, I should have realized that. :twisted:
We must be related then.
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Post by Geoff » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:56 pm

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Post by redunderthebed » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:52 am

Ian wrote: The history of the Japanese Empire still seems to be a sore spot with many Chinese though, and that happened around the same time as the Nazis. So maybe a few more generations are needed.
Erm unlike the nazis the japs have never being punished for their crimes or made to apologize and no nuking them doesn't count.

To forgive first there has to be justice and admitting that wrong was done.............japanese frequently deny any wrongdoing the most recent event was their revision of history books that almost completely expells anything that makes them look bad in the past.

Fuck they have a shrine to these bastards and political leaders visit regularly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine

Do you seriously think that the germans would be able to get away with this shit........i don't think so.

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Post by Hermit » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:04 am

Crumple wrote:Parse the ideaology and repackage it with the right jargon and put it out as a questionaire - you'll see most people are defacto nazis underneath...
...especially nihilists.

I don't know if there are many nazis left alive, and most of the neonazis are no more nazis than communists living in the west are communists.
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Re: The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

Post by surreptitious57 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:30 am

Rum wrote:
Ian wrote:I don't know if the statute of limitations has run out yet. Most of the world seems to have forgiven the Vikings for their plunder. I doubt the descendants of Carthage are still pissed at Rome. I'm not sure how people in China, Central Asia and Russia feel about the Mongol armies, but I'll bet there's at least some forgiveness there by now. The history of the Japanese Empire still seems to be a sore spot with many Chinese though, and that happened around the same time as the Nazis. So maybe a few more generations are needed.
If the Irish are anything to go by the statute of limitations is a minimum 400 years!
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Re: The NAZIS - time to forgive & forget?

Post by Ironclad » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:46 am

Ian wrote:Most of the world seems to have forgiven the Vikings for their plunder. I doubt the descendants of Carthage are still pissed at Rome.
Shouldn't they be just as pissed with the Caliphate or other following Muslim invaders? How quickly people give up their identity when overrun (converted) so heavily!
Anyhow, I will only forgive the Vikings for their plundering when the Italians come to every English town & village and apologise for their naughtiness. And the Normans.
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