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Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

Post by klr » Mon May 30, 2011 11:18 am

A good decision?
A knee-jerk reaction?
Politicking in advance of upcoming elections?

... or some combination of the above?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13592208
Germany's coalition government has announced a reversal of policy that will see all the country's nuclear power plants phased out by 2022.

The decision makes Germany the biggest industrial power to announce plans to give up nuclear energy.

Environment Minister Norbert Rottgen made the announcement following late-night talks.

Chancellor Angela Merkel set up a panel to review nuclear power following the crisis at Fukushima in Japan.

There have been mass anti-nuclear protests across Germany in the wake of March's Fukushima crisis, triggered by an earthquake and tsunami.

'Sustainable energy'

Mr Rottgen said the seven oldest reactors - which were taken offline for a safety review immediately after the Japanese crisis - would never be used again. An eighth plant - the Kruemmel facility in northern Germany, which was already offline and has been plagued by technical problems, would also be shut down for good.

Six others would go offline by 2021 at the latest and the three newest by 2022, he said.

Mr Rottgen said: "It's definite. The latest end for the last three nuclear power plants is 2022. There will be no clause for revision."

Mr Rottgen said a tax on spent fuel rods, expected to raise 2.3bn euros (£1.9bn) a year from this year, would remain despite the shutdown.

Mrs Merkel's centre-right Christian Democrats met their junior partners on Sunday after the ethics panel had delivered its conclusions.

Before the meeting she said: "I think we're on a good path but very, very many questions have to be considered.

"If you want to exit something, you also have to prove how the change will work and how we can enter into a durable and sustainable energy provision."

The previous German government - a coalition of the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) and the Greens - previously decided to shut down Germany's nuclear power stations by 2021.

However, last September Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition scrapped those plans - announcing it would extend the life of the country's nuclear reactors by an average of 12 years.

Ministers said they needed to keep nuclear energy as a "bridging technology" to a greener future.

The decision to extend was unpopular in Germany even before the radioactive leaks at the Fukushima plant.

But following Fukushima, Mrs Merkel promptly scrapped her extension plan, and announced a review.

Greens boosted

Germany's nuclear industry has argued that an early shutdown would be hugely damaging to the country's industrial base.

Before March's moratorium on the older power plants, Germany relied on nuclear power for 23% of its energy.

The anti-nuclear drive boosted Germany's Green party, which took control of the Christian Democrat stronghold of Baden-Wuerttemberg, in late March.

Shaun Burnie, nuclear adviser for environmental campaign group Greenpeace International, told the BBC World Service that Germany had already invested heavily in renewable energy.

"The various studies from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change show that renewables could deliver, basically, global electricity by 2050," he said.

"Germany is going to be ahead of the game on that and it is going to make a lot of money, so the message to Germany's industrial competitors is that you can base your energy policy not on nuclear, not on coal, but on renewables."

Analysis

Nearly a quarter of German's electricity comes from nuclear power so the question becomes: How do you make up the short-fall?

The official commission which has studied the issue reckons that electricity use can be cut by 10% in the next decade through more efficient machinery and buildings.

The intention is also to increase the share of wind energy. This, though, would mean re-jigging the electricity distribution system because much of the extra wind power would come from farms on the North Sea to replace atomic power stations in the south.

Protest groups are already vocal in the beautiful, forested centre of the country which, they fear, will become a north-south "energie autobahn" of pylons and high-voltage cables.

Some independent analysts believe that coal power will benefit if the wind plans don't deliver what is needed.

And on either side of Germany is France, with its big nuclear industry, and Poland, which has announced an intention to build two nuclear power stations.
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Re: Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon May 30, 2011 11:21 am

Interesting that this has come out at the same time as a report showing that CO2 emissions are at their highest ever and we now have almost zero chance of keeping temperature rises below 2oC.

Not sure renewables can make up this shortfall. Greenpeace say they can but they are full of crap.

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Post by cowiz » Mon May 30, 2011 11:22 am

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Post by Santa_Claus » Mon May 30, 2011 11:32 am

The Germans are going to power industry with Burning Jews.

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Re: Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

Post by klr » Mon May 30, 2011 11:36 am

pawiz wrote:"Discuss ..."

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Clinton Huxley wrote:Interesting that this has come out at the same time as a report showing that CO2 emissions are at their highest ever and we now have almost zero chance of keeping temperature rises below 2oC.

Not sure renewables can make up this shortfall. Greenpeace say they can but they are full of crap.
Indeed. The French - who are much more hard-nosed about these sorts of things - will not be following Germany anytime soon. But then, nearly 80% of French electricity is nuclear-generated.

What's the betting that the Germans will end up importing some nuclear-generated electricity power from France and elsewhere? After all, that's what we do in Ireland. The hypocrisy of the "Not in my back yard" position. :ddpan:
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Re: Germany: Nuclear power plants to close by 2022

Post by Tero » Mon May 30, 2011 12:01 pm

It's like the trees. They don't want to cut down their trees to make paper. So they buy the paper, from trees cut down in Finland.

The electricity will come in by wire.

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Post by mistermack » Mon May 30, 2011 12:59 pm

Germany has a HUGE industry making wind generators etc. They have subsidised and supported it all the way, and are making an awful lot of money in exports.
This is an attempt to corner the market, by investing so much, nobody else can compete on the technology.
The French have done much the same on nuclear.
It's really got nothing to do with safety, it's about making money, and Merkel getting re-elected.
They might have to pay out huge compensation to the companies they are closing down though.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon May 30, 2011 1:02 pm

Germany is all out of Jews so it'll be Turks and Arabs. Nah, they've got big open cast mines - damn cheaper than nuclear and what do they care about CO2? their experts at feeding the exhaust into the passenger compartment of the bus. :coffee:
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Post by HomerJay » Mon May 30, 2011 1:12 pm

Tero wrote:The electricity will come in by wire.
Except wire gives huge losses over distance, I favour a highly charged air bridge, descending to individual lightning conductors on each building.

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon May 30, 2011 1:13 pm

I wish I could remember where I read recently that if sufficient wind and tidal power generators were in place to provide a majority of electricity, these in themselves would trash weather systems to an even greater extent than we're doing at present... :think:

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Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon May 30, 2011 1:19 pm

The Chinese are taking an entirely different tack and pushing for thorium nuclear power, which is apparently much safer, cleaner and more abundant than uranium. Either way, more science is the best solution. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... orium.html
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Mon May 30, 2011 1:32 pm

This is a good bet. Especially here in the UK where conventional answers to imminent power shortages are limited. :coffee:

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Post by Azathoth » Mon May 30, 2011 1:47 pm

Short sighted, politically motivated wankery. There is no chance that they will meet 25% of their energy demands with wind power so they will just end up having to build coal fired plants in the future. Lacking natural disaters or soviet style neglect, neither of which Germany are prone to, nuclear is the cleanest, safest reliable energy generation method we have
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Post by Adenosine » Mon May 30, 2011 1:48 pm

What about the waste?
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Post by Azathoth » Mon May 30, 2011 1:52 pm

The waste is demonised by wankers like greenpeace. The bulk of it is so low level that it isn't even worth worrying about. You would get more of a daily dose living in a granite area than living on a landfill of low level nuclear waste. The high level stuff is a tiny amount and can be encased in glass and buried somewhere away from an aquifer.
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