Man U is teh fackin Average!

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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by klr » Sat May 28, 2011 10:19 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:The match stats make interesting viewing! (Stolen from the BBC site.)
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Man U only had a single shot on target out of only 3 attempts and scored with it! Even when they are shit they are lucky bastards! :hehe:

5-1 wouldn't have flattered Barca. They took their foot off the gas when they reached 3-1, leaving plenty in the tank just in case Rooney pulled something else out of the bag.
And the only reason Scholes looked good when he came on is because Barca had begun to ease off. If he had started the game, then with his reckless tackling he'd have been lucky to make it to half time without being booked, or even sent off*.

*Although it does seem to be very difficult to get yourself sent off in the European Cup final, or the FA Cup Final. :roll:
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 28, 2011 10:20 pm

pawiz wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:This all sounds very gay.
Butt out homo and go and play some hand egg
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by Animavore » Sat May 28, 2011 10:21 pm

HomerJay wrote:Let down by some pisspoor defending IMO. vidic poor for the first, just static, evra useless for the second, vidic even had to tell him to go to messi, when messi had time and space outside the box!

None of the goals actually came from great play and in each case, the guy had time and space to take an easy shot.

As none of the goals came from barcas prolonged periods of possession, you wonder how effective playing keep ball is.

When the mighty Nottingham Forest were playing Swansea in the playoffs a couple of weeks ago they pushed possession rates up to nearly 90% for long periods of two games. Still didn't score though. Possession stats and play are largely meaningless. In fact most stats show that the longer a team keeps possession in one move they are increasingly less likely to score.
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by cowiz » Sat May 28, 2011 10:22 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:This all sounds very gay.
Butt out homo and go and play some hand egg
BOHICA, fan boy.
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by klr » Sat May 28, 2011 10:23 pm

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HomerJay wrote:Let down by some pisspoor defending IMO. vidic poor for the first, just static, evra useless for the second, vidic even had to tell him to go to messi, when messi had time and space outside the box!

None of the goals actually came from great play and in each case, the guy had time and space to take an easy shot.

As none of the goals came from barcas prolonged periods of possession, you wonder how effective playing keep ball is.

When the mighty Nottingham Forest were playing Swansea in the playoffs a couple of weeks ago they pushed possession rates up to nearly 90% for long periods of two games. Still didn't score though. Possession stats and play are largely meaningless. In fact most stats show that the longer a team keeps possession in one move they are increasingly less likely to score.
Were we watching the same game? I think you might have been watching a replay of the 2009 final.
And I thought "mighty" last applied to Nottingham Forest back in 1979 and 1980? :demon:
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 28, 2011 10:23 pm

pawiz wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:This all sounds very gay.
Butt out homo and go and play some hand egg
BOHICA, fan boy.
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Gawdzilla wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:This all sounds very gay.
Butt out homo and go and play some hand egg
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 28, 2011 10:25 pm

Told ya this thread was gay.
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Post by cowiz » Sat May 28, 2011 10:26 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Told ya this thread was gay.
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by Jason » Sat May 28, 2011 10:29 pm

Animavore wrote:It was nice of Barca to give them free lessons on how to play football I thought.
Oi! Sod off you Irish git. Gay John is waiting for you. :tongue:


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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat May 28, 2011 10:33 pm

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HomerJay wrote:Let down by some pisspoor defending IMO. vidic poor for the first, just static, evra useless for the second, vidic even had to tell him to go to messi, when messi had time and space outside the box!

None of the goals actually came from great play and in each case, the guy had time and space to take an easy shot.

As none of the goals came from barcas prolonged periods of possession, you wonder how effective playing keep ball is.

When the mighty Nottingham Forest were playing Swansea in the playoffs a couple of weeks ago they pushed possession rates up to nearly 90% for long periods of two games. Still didn't score though. Possession stats and play are largely meaningless. In fact most stats show that the longer a team keeps possession in one move they are increasingly less likely to score.
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The opening goal was ALL about possession, passing and movement in the box. Pedro didn't just happen to be unmarked, the Barca movement and fast, sharp passing left the United defense flapping like landed fish! Messi's second was a speculative attempt that caught the keeper napping, I will admit, but David's finish was sublime and once again built on some sweet passing from his teammates. Factor in the other 10 shots on target, most of which came from complex passing moves in and around the box and which fucking game where you watching? :dunno:
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by cowiz » Sat May 28, 2011 10:34 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Animavore wrote:
HomerJay wrote:Let down by some pisspoor defending IMO. vidic poor for the first, just static, evra useless for the second, vidic even had to tell him to go to messi, when messi had time and space outside the box!

None of the goals actually came from great play and in each case, the guy had time and space to take an easy shot.

As none of the goals came from barcas prolonged periods of possession, you wonder how effective playing keep ball is.

When the mighty Nottingham Forest were playing Swansea in the playoffs a couple of weeks ago they pushed possession rates up to nearly 90% for long periods of two games. Still didn't score though. Possession stats and play are largely meaningless. In fact most stats show that the longer a team keeps possession in one move they are increasingly less likely to score.
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:this:

The opening goal was ALL about possession, passing and movement in the box. Pedro didn't just happen to be unmarked, the Barca movement and fast, sharp passing left the United defense flapping like landed fish! Messi's second was a speculative attempt that caught the keeper napping, I will admit, but David's finish was sublime and once again built on some sweet passing from his teammates. Factor in the other 10 shots on target, most of which came from complex passing moves in and around the box and which fucking game where you watching? :dunno:
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Re: Man U is teh fackin Average!

Post by HomerJay » Sat May 28, 2011 11:56 pm

pawiz wrote: I suspect that "That young man knows nothing about football" ~ Brian (Lives in a field) Clough
Actually I played football competitively for nearly thirty years, entered the FA Cup for 12 years or more, met Brian Clough on many occasions and always gave him the benefit of my experience and he signed my shirt for me once.

Over time, as you slow down, I moved from playing at the front to back, always on the left. After a good few years at the back I was considered an expert left back. All Barcas goals came from the left back area of the pitch.

Evra got drawn into the centre for the first goal, instead of a back 4 manu had 2+2, when pedro made his run vidic should have gone with him but he was ball watching, really basic error.

the second goal was even worse, evra and vidic were stood next to each other holding hands, never a good tactic, but worse, evra left messi (the world's best footballer?) on his own 6-7 yards out from the box. criminal behaviour. with a player like messi you have to be tight, so he has to play with his back to goal, you don't let him turn and you don't let him build up speed and you don't let him shoot. vidic did send evra out when he saw him get the ball but it was too late, vidic wasn't watching, again.

nani, bless him, fucked up completely for the third goal, giving away possession in the box to barca is never a great idea and when the ball was played to villa no-one closed him down.

these things should be bread and butter for manu defenders, so why not tonight? the occasion was too much and they bottled it.

the first two goals didn't come from barca playing their way up the pitch from extended possession, they came from getting behind a high manu midfield, the third from a stupid mistake.

if you were watching on sky gary neville, ex manu right back, did admit that the defence was poor but the point wasn't drilled home.

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