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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue May 24, 2011 6:27 pm

Though Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu publicly clashed with President Barack Obama on Friday and held firm in his stance Monday night, the Israeli leader still needs American help on a looming test: a proposed United Nations vote on a resolution to recognize Palestinian statehood.
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"I intend to speak the unvarnished truth. Because now, more than ever, we need to speak with clarity," Mr. Netanyahu said to standing ovations, and a few hecklers. "Events in the region are opening people's eyes to a simple truth: The problems of the region are not rooted in Israel."

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Post by Gawd » Tue May 24, 2011 11:38 pm

The past week has shown that the Jews in Israel have absolutely no intention of going back to the 1967 borders and stop their land grab of the West Bank. Listen to Netanyahu and the standing ovations he gets for his speeches this week at the US Congress and AIPAC that Israel will not give up any settlements no matter what. It is obvious to any brain dead person that the Jews just posture and are THE reason why there is no peace.

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Post by Gawd » Wed May 25, 2011 12:01 am

Netanyahu's speech to Congress speech shows America will buy anything
It was an address with no destination, filled with lies on top of lies and illusions heaped on illusions. Only rarely is a foreign head of state invited to speak before Congress. It's unlikely that any other has attempted to sell them such a pile of propaganda and prevarication, such hypocrisy and sanctimony as Benjamin Netanyahu did yesterday.

The fact that the Congress rose to its feet multiple times to applaud him says more about the ignorance of its members than the quality of their guest's speech. An Israeli presence on the Jordan River - cheering. Jerusalem must remain the united capital of Israel - applause. Did American's elected representatives know that they were cheering for the death of possibility? If America loved it, we're in big trouble.

The fact that the only truth spoken in the Capitol was that of a former Israeli shouting "equal rights for Palestinians" is a badge of honor for us and a mark of shame for America. Netanyahu's "speech of his life" was the speech of the death of peace.

It was a 1970s show. Maybe back then people still bought the piles of pretty, wise words shoveled by a peace-loving Israeli prime minister. How can an Israeli prime minister dare to say his country "fully supports the desire of Arab peoples in our region to live freely" without spitting out the entire bitter truth - as long as they aren't Palestinian. Suddenly Netanyahu marvels at the Arab Spring, but where was he when it began? He was on his standard scare campaign, warning of the dangers of an extremist Islamic regime and rushing to build a fence along our border with Egypt. And yesterday, suddenly, it's "the promise of a new dawn." Apparently there is no end to hypocrisy.

And how could he rain praise on Israeli democracy when his government has done more than its predecessors to deal the mortal blow to that democracy, to pass completely anti-democratic laws? How can he boast of the status of Israel's Arab citizens, while his right-wing, nationalistic coalition is passing racist laws against them? Saying that Israel's Arabs have more freedom in Israel than in any Arab state is like saying that blacks in American have more rights than those in Africa. So what? Does that mean that African-Americans had equal rights for generations, that they didn't have to fight for their rights?

And how dare he speak about freedom of worship in Jerusalem at a time when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been denied that freedom for years. Freedom of worship in Jerusalem is for Palestinians aged 35 and up, sometimes 45 and up; sometimes even 65 isn't old enough. And for the 2 million people of the Gaza Strip, there is no such freedom at all.

How can Netanyahu praise the peace with Egypt, when it's easy to guess he would have voted against it? The man who explicitly said he would do his level best to destroy the Oslo Accords suddenly says he's in favor of peace with the Palestinians.

Last night we saw that the Americans will buy anything, or at least their applauding legislators will.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... g-1.363897

Damn Americans. Also to any brain dead person, it is obvious that the Americans wholly support the Jewish supremacists and who fuel the conflict. Mark my words that when the time comes in September for the UN vote on Palestinian statehood, AmeriKKKa will be the sole veto.

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Post by Azathoth » Wed May 25, 2011 12:30 am

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Post by Gawd » Wed May 25, 2011 3:20 pm

Obama: The UN can't give the Palestinians a state
United States President Barack Obama said on Wednesday that the Palestinians should negotiate with the Israelis and not appeal to the United Nations for statehood.

"I strongly believe that for Palestinians to take the United Nations route rather than the path of sitting down and talking with the Israelis is a mistake," Obama said in a joint press conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron in London.

"The United Nations can achieve a lot of important work, what it is not going to be able to do is deliver a Palestinian state," he said. "The only way to see a Palestinian state is if Palestinians and Israelis agree on a just peace."

Obama also reassured that he was confident a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians was achievable.

"My goal, as I set out in a speech I gave last week, is a Jewish state of Israel that is safe and secure and recognized by its neighbors and a sovereign state of Palestine in which the Palestinian people are able to determine their own fate and their own future," Obama said. "I am confident that can be achieved."
See what did I tell you? The Americans are a major problem and a fundamental reason why the Palestinians get their property stolen by the Jews. The damn Americans just play charades in front of everyone faking that they are a neutral outsider when in fact the Americans are racists.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... e-1.364010

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 25, 2011 3:25 pm

Gawd wrote:The past week has shown that the Jews in Israel have absolutely no intention of going back to the 1967 borders and stop their land grab of the West Bank. Listen to Netanyahu and the standing ovations he gets for his speeches this week at the US Congress and AIPAC that Israel will not give up any settlements no matter what. It is obvious to any brain dead person that the Jews just posture and are THE reason why there is no peace.
I wouldn't go back to 1967 either. Good for them. The suggestion is borderline ludicrous.

Give the fucking West Bank back to Jordan, and let it adopt its old name "Transjordan." We all know why Jordan doesn't want it, though, and why they willingly renounced their claim to the West Bank....it has nothing to do with a love of Israel, either....

Israel HAS given up settlements, so your claim that they won't give up any is ridiculous.

Let's hear the Palestinians accept the suggestion. Have they? Have the Palestinians even hinted that they'll take a country based on the 67 borders of Israel? Of course not. They won't. That's a starting point for them, because what they really want is for Israel to be a Muslim country. We all know it. They turned Lebanon into a Muslim country, and they've got their sights on Israel too. There will be no satisfaction until it's all "Muslim."

Go Israel! Yay!

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 25, 2011 3:28 pm

Gawd wrote:Obama: The UN can't give the Palestinians a state
United States President Barack Obama said on Wednesday that the Palestinians should negotiate with the Israelis and not appeal to the United Nations for statehood.

"I strongly believe that for Palestinians to take the United Nations route rather than the path of sitting down and talking with the Israelis is a mistake," Obama said in a joint press conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron in London.

"The United Nations can achieve a lot of important work, what it is not going to be able to do is deliver a Palestinian state," he said. "The only way to see a Palestinian state is if Palestinians and Israelis agree on a just peace."

Obama also reassured that he was confident a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians was achievable.

"My goal, as I set out in a speech I gave last week, is a Jewish state of Israel that is safe and secure and recognized by its neighbors and a sovereign state of Palestine in which the Palestinian people are able to determine their own fate and their own future," Obama said. "I am confident that can be achieved."
See what did I tell you? The Americans are a major problem and a fundamental reason why the Palestinians get their property stolen by the Jews. The damn Americans just play charades in front of everyone faking that they are a neutral outsider when in fact the Americans are racists.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... e-1.364010
There is one reason the Palestinians won't agree with Israel on a two state solution, side by side with Israel: The Palestinians think a "just solution" is for Israel to be a Muslim country, which includes the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights, and the present day country of Israel. Anything short of that will never be "just" to Palestinians.

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Post by Gawd » Wed May 25, 2011 3:31 pm

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Gawd wrote:The past week has shown that the Jews in Israel have absolutely no intention of going back to the 1967 borders and stop their land grab of the West Bank. Listen to Netanyahu and the standing ovations he gets for his speeches this week at the US Congress and AIPAC that Israel will not give up any settlements no matter what. It is obvious to any brain dead person that the Jews just posture and are THE reason why there is no peace.
I wouldn't go back to 1967 either. Good for them. The suggestion is borderline ludicrous.

Give the fucking West Bank back to Jordan, and let it adopt its old name "Transjordan." We all know why Jordan doesn't want it, though, and why they willingly renounced their claim to the West Bank....it has nothing to do with a love of Israel, either....

Israel HAS given up settlements, so your claim that they won't give up any is ridiculous.

Let's hear the Palestinians accept the suggestion. Have they? Have the Palestinians even hinted that they'll take a country based on the 67 borders of Israel? Of course not. They won't. That's a starting point for them, because what they really want is for Israel to be a Muslim country. We all know it. They turned Lebanon into a Muslim country, and they've got their sights on Israel too. There will be no satisfaction until it's all "Muslim."

Go Israel! Yay!
Are you just fucking with me? Did you not even follow the racist Netanyanhu's speeches this week in which he pointedly told the Americans that Israel will not give up any settlements? And yes, the Palestinians along with the Arab League have repeatedly said for years that they are willing to make peace with the 1967 borders, even Hamas also agrees to that. What the hell do you think the Arab League peace proposal a decade back and still standing is for? It is the greedy Jews that are the problem along with the greedy Americans.
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Post by Gawd » Wed May 25, 2011 3:32 pm

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There is one reason the Palestinians won't agree with Israel on a two state solution, side by side with Israel: The Palestinians think a "just solution" is for Israel to be a Muslim country, which includes the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights, and the present day country of Israel. Anything short of that will never be "just" to Palestinians.
Israel has no right to exist.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 25, 2011 3:44 pm

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Are you just fucking with me? Did you not even follow the racist Netanyanhu's speeches this week in which he pointedly told the Americans that Israel will not give up any settlements?
Certain settlements. Israel already HAS given up other settlements.
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And yes, the Palestinians along with the Arab League have repeatedly said for years that they are willing to make peace with the 1967 borders, even Hamas also agrees to that. What the hell do you think the Arab League peace proposal a decade back and still standing is for? It is the greedy Jews that are the problem along with the greedy Americans.
LOL - what a laugh. They said they wanted the 67 borders, but they won't do it without the amorphous "right of return" which to the Palestinians means ISRAEL too, and not just the West Bank and Gaza. Of course the Muslims are all fired in favor of that! If they get that, then they will flood Israel with millions of Muslim immigrants and do what they really intend to do: push the "greedy Jews" (as you call them) out and turn Israel into a Muslim country.

This is so patently obvious, and the Palestinians don't even deny it generally speaking. They openly CALL for it. It's not the existence of Israel that's the problem - it's the JEWISHNESS of Israel that's the problem. That's why the call it the "Nakba" - the "catastrophe."

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed May 25, 2011 3:47 pm

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There is one reason the Palestinians won't agree with Israel on a two state solution, side by side with Israel: The Palestinians think a "just solution" is for Israel to be a Muslim country, which includes the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights, and the present day country of Israel. Anything short of that will never be "just" to Palestinians.
Israel has no right to exist.
See - and that's what the Palestinians think, and that is exactly why peace is impossible and the Muslims are to blame. Fuck them and their stinking sess pit of a religion. And, that demonstrates why your nonsense about how the Philistines are willing to accept the 67 borders is just that - fucking utter codswallop and claptrap - nonsense. They don't think Israel has a right to exist and are trying to bring the opposite state of affairs into being.

Israel has absolutely as much right to exist as Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria. There is no rational justification for suggesting otherwise. All those countries were created out of whole cloth, carved from rotting carcass of the Ottoman Empire, which was stolen from the Byzantines.

Jordan was carved out and created as a predominantly Christian country. Iraq, Syria, Turkey, and Transjordan were all carved out too, and created as Muslim countries. And, Israel was created as a Jewish country.

Why, pray tell, do the rest of the countries have a right to exist, but not Israel?

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Post by Gawd » Wed May 25, 2011 3:51 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Are you just fucking with me? Did you not even follow the racist Netanyanhu's speeches this week in which he pointedly told the Americans that Israel will not give up any settlements?
Certain settlements. Israel already HAS given up other settlements.
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And yes, the Palestinians along with the Arab League have repeatedly said for years that they are willing to make peace with the 1967 borders, even Hamas also agrees to that. What the hell do you think the Arab League peace proposal a decade back and still standing is for? It is the greedy Jews that are the problem along with the greedy Americans.
LOL - what a laugh. They said they wanted the 67 borders, but they won't do it without the amorphous "right of return" which to the Palestinians means ISRAEL too, and not just the West Bank and Gaza. Of course the Muslims are all fired in favor of that! If they get that, then they will flood Israel with millions of Muslim immigrants and do what they really intend to do: push the "greedy Jews" (as you call them) out and turn Israel into a Muslim country.

This is so patently obvious, and the Palestinians don't even deny it generally speaking. They openly CALL for it. It's not the existence of Israel that's the problem - it's the JEWISHNESS of Israel that's the problem. That's why the call it the "Nakba" - the "catastrophe."
Israel has not "given" up any settlements that they weren't forced to by Hamas.

And yes, the JEWISHNESS of Israel is a central problem. Why the hell should the Palestinians not have the right of return just because they are not Jews? They lived there before greedy Jews stole their land.

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Post by Gawd » Wed May 25, 2011 3:53 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Gawd wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
There is one reason the Palestinians won't agree with Israel on a two state solution, side by side with Israel: The Palestinians think a "just solution" is for Israel to be a Muslim country, which includes the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights, and the present day country of Israel. Anything short of that will never be "just" to Palestinians.
Israel has no right to exist.
See - and that's what the Palestinians think, and that is exactly why peace is impossible and the Muslims are to blame. Fuck them and their stinking sess pit of a religion. And, that demonstrates why your nonsense about how the Philistines are willing to accept the 67 borders is just that - fucking utter codswallop and claptrap - nonsense. They don't think Israel has a right to exist and are trying to bring the opposite state of affairs into being.

Israel has absolutely as much right to exist as Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria. There is no rational justification for suggesting otherwise. All those countries were created out of whole cloth, carved from rotting carcass of the Ottoman Empire, which was stolen from the Byzantines.

Jordan was carved out and created as a predominantly Christian country. Iraq, Syria, Turkey, and Transjordan were all carved out too, and created as Muslim countries. And, Israel was created as a Jewish country.

Why, pray tell, do the rest of the countries have a right to exist, but not Israel?
The other countries don't kick Arabs out and steal their land because they are not Jews.

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