When is rape not rape?

[pErvinalia]

I wasn't suspended, dickweed.

Fine. Got a warning. Then whimpered off with your tale between your legs.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I wasn't suspended, dickweed.

Fine. Got a warning. Then whimpered off with your tale between your legs.

Yep, you and Seth are a set.

[pErvinalia]

I actually went back and read what you said in your little dummy spit. It was quite a laugh. Furthermore, it also puts you firmly in the Seth/Gallstones 'everyone is out to get poor widdle me' conspiracy camp. How's your paranoia these days?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I actually went back and read what you said in your little dummy spit. It was quite a laugh. Furthermore, it also puts you firmly in the Seth/Gallstones 'everyone is out to get poor widdle me' conspiracy camp. How's your paranoia these days?

Well, Seth, it bothers me a bit when the weather's going to change.

[pErvinalia]

The funny thing is, i don't know who would be more offended to be called the other between Seth and I. Wadda ya reckon, Seth?

[Evabot]

Yeah, this is quickly turning into a big "fuck you" with a limp dick...

I could really start flying off the handle with this bullshit of an excuse for rape argument, but instead I'm just going to stop reading this thread. Consider this the first thread that ever hit way too close to home and made my skin crawl.

Congratulations.

[Gallstones]

Hellfire rEv, I'm a rootin-tootin, pickup drivin, gun ownin Son of the Founding Fathers, and that's a fact.

I so love American men.

[Gallstones]

Furthermore, the suggestion that date rape is less serious than 'forcible' rape, as he calls it, is idiotic. There is very little difference between using violence to subdue a victim and using chemicals to do so, they are both violations of that individual's right to sovereignty over their own body and should be treated no differently.

Not if the chemical was voluntarily self-administered.

If you get drunk or stoned and hand the care of your body over to someone else, it shouldn't be rape, it should be just desserts for your own stupidity.

Voluntary intoxication on the part of the alleged victim should be an affirmative defense to a charge of rape in court.

Fuck you Seth. And I don't mean that in the nice way.

No consent = No. No. No. NO. NO always. Regardless. One can't claim mitigation--she didn't say I couldn't--just because she was drunk.
No consent. no consent, no consent. Period. Verstehst du das?
A woman can go out and drink without it being some implied submission to being used as some opportunistic asshole decides to use her for. I never turn myself over to anybody. I never place myself in the care of some guy I met at a bar--never.

Your whole premise is total fucking shit.

How about when the drunk guy passes out I split his dick down the center? He didn't say I couldn't. He had to be giving consent by being intoxicated.


6'whatever and 200 + whatever pounds--I'll take you on. Even if I lose there will be bruises.

[Gallstones]

I'm glad everyone around here is starting to get a proper picture of the true Seth. I can let you in on a secret - it's not the most disgusting thing I have ever heard him say.

Fuck you too rEv.

[Gallstones]

Remind me never to get drunk with Seth

Weren't we drunk the other night before bed and I was like "I'm going to rape you" and you said "No you're not" and I was like "you're right, I'm not"??!?!.....if me being stoned/drunk gives people an ok to rape me, I'm a walking target.

Tell me about it.

[Gallstones]

I've known Seth for a long time, I was the first person to get into it with him on RDF when he just joined up, and I think you might be selling him short. He often does this kind of thing - argues a point he doesn't believe to be true for reasons of his own. Most people just call him a troll or ignore him.

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What was the thread, what was it about, that first one?

[Gallstones]

Due to biology only men can truely innitiate sex so the burden of determining consent is on them

This is a joke---right?

[Gallstones]

How about people ought to be responsible for themselves and their conduct and they not fuck people who are not fully conscious and consenting? And if they do so anyway because they are drunk and don't exercise good judgment and get charged with rape they just accept that they raped someone?

[Gallstones]

Remind me never to get drunk with Seth

Weren't we drunk the other night before bed and I was like "I'm going to rape you" and you said "No you're not" and I was like "you're right, I'm not"??!?!.....if me being stoned/drunk gives people an ok to rape me, I'm a walking target.

Yes, you are, even if it doesn't give people the ok. When you get drunk/stoned you are a walking target. The lesson: Don't get drunk/stoned with people you cannot trust with your life...or your body.

And if you fail in this common-sense self-protection adult behavior, why should anyone, including society, have any sympathy for you?

Because otherwise you are coddling and facilitating and enabling disordered criminal behavior?
You are still making a choice with what to support.

A responsible, self aware adult would have self control enough to not fuck someone who is not conscious. Full stop.

[Gallstones]

If you think women should not be drunk or looking good or talking to strange men in pubs and clubs or they deserve abuse assault and rape then you are the fucking Taliban .

And you like dogs too.