Man Cured of AIDS

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Re: Man Cured of AIDS

Post by GenesForLife » Tue May 17, 2011 5:11 pm

Oh, I think there was some pretty strong evidence in support of Y.pestis being implicated...

http://www.plospathogens.org/article/in ... at.1001134
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From AD 1347 to AD 1353, the Black Death killed tens of millions of people in Europe, leaving misery and devastation in its wake, with successive epidemics ravaging the continent until the 18th century. The etiology of this disease has remained highly controversial, ranging from claims based on genetics and the historical descriptions of symptoms that it was caused by Yersinia pestis to conclusions that it must have been caused by other pathogens. It has also been disputed whether plague had the same etiology in northern and southern Europe. Here we identified DNA and protein signatures specific for Y. pestis in human skeletons from mass graves in northern, central and southern Europe that were associated archaeologically with the Black Death and subsequent resurgences. We confirm that Y. pestis caused the Black Death and later epidemics on the entire European continent over the course of four centuries. Furthermore, on the basis of 17 single nucleotide polymorphisms plus the absence of a deletion in glpD gene, our aDNA results identified two previously unknown but related clades of Y. pestis associated with distinct medieval mass graves. These findings suggest that plague was imported to Europe on two or more occasions, each following a distinct route. These two clades are ancestral to modern isolates of Y. pestis biovars Orientalis and Medievalis. Our results clarify the etiology of the Black Death and provide a paradigm for a detailed historical reconstruction of the infection routes followed by this disease.


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Several historical epidemic waves of plague have been attributed to Yersinia pestis, the etiologic agent of modern plague. The most famous of these was the second pandemic which was active in Europe from AD 1347 until 1750, and began with the ‘Black Death’. The most informative method to establish the etiological nature of these ancient infections should be the analysis of ancient DNA, but the results of this method have been controversial. Here, by combining ancient DNA analyses and protein-specific detection, we demonstrate unambiguously that Y. pestis caused the Black Death. Furthermore, we show that at least two variants of Y. pestis spread over Europe during the second pandemic. The analysis of up to 20 diagnostic markers reveals that the two variants evolved near the time that phylogenetic branches 1 and 2 separated and may no longer exist. Our results thus resolve a long-standing debate about the etiology of the Black Death and provide key information about the evolution of the plague bacillus and the spread of the disease during the Middle Ages.

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Re: Man Cured of AIDS

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue May 17, 2011 6:02 pm

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Animavore wrote:
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nellikin wrote:"Scientists said Brown received stem cells from a donor who was immune to HIV. In fact, about one percent of Caucasians are immune to HIV. Some researchers think the immunity gene goes back to the Great Plague: people who survived the plague passed their immunity down and their heirs have it today."

Is AIDS related to the bubonic plague? Seems a bit weird to me.

Anyway - he's a very lucky guy. Hope he thanks god everyday for his existence.
The Great Plauge/Black Death may not have been bubonic plague. Some experts think it may have been some now unknown virus more closely related to Ebola or something - I can't recall the exact details.
This is correct. The symptoms aren't the same. Archaeological evidence even shows there were no rats in England at the time. In the case of England they can even trace the guy who brought it over. There's a great documentary on it. Can't remember the name.
There were rat's, but they were all black rats (Rattus rattus) in those days, and tended to stay in the cities and other warm places, whereas the Black Death had no problem spreading through rural areas.


Odd to think the black rat is near-as-damn-it extinct in this country now.
A few dodgy 'facts' in that post, HBM. :prof:

It is Rattus rattus that carries Yersinia pestis, the vector for bubonic plague. The brown rat (R. norvegicus) does not.
R. rattus had been present in England for many centuries by the time of the great plague. It is believed to be the flea, Y. pestis, that migrated, bringing the plague, not its host rat.
R norvegicus has since supplanted R. rattus in many areas, specifically urban areas, where its burrowing nature makes it more able to thrive. R. rattus, being a better climber, tends to be restricted to rural areas where there are plenty of trees. R. rattus also does better in warmer climates.
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Re: Man Cured of AIDS

Post by GenesForLife » Tue May 17, 2011 6:49 pm

Errrr no, Y.pestis is the bacterium, Xamonas, not the flea.

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Post by lordpasternack » Sat May 21, 2011 12:39 am

I hate to be pedantic, but you can't really say he was cured of AIDS if he never actually developed AIDS. That would be like saying that I am cured of influenza everytime my immune system responds to a flu virus and stops me becoming ill. :coffee:
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Re: Man Cured of AIDS

Post by GenesForLife » Sat May 21, 2011 5:01 pm

lordpasternack wrote:I hate to be pedantic, but you can't really say he was cured of AIDS if he never actually developed AIDS. That would be like saying that I am cured of influenza everytime my immune system responds to a flu virus and stops me becoming ill. :coffee:
This is correct, but it may have something to do with the way AIDS is defined in layspeak, i.e, as any and all symptoms caused by HIV infection, as opposed to the medically rigorous usage where it is the most advanced set of symptoms following HIV infection, following the onset of primary lymphoadenopathy and later the ARC phase of the illness.

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Post by Ronja » Sat May 21, 2011 7:50 pm

lordpasternack wrote:I hate to be pedantic...
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Re: Man Cured of AIDS

Post by Pappa » Sat May 21, 2011 8:02 pm

Ronja wrote:
lordpasternack wrote:I hate to be pedantic...
Liar :coffee:
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